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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-02-18 04:09 pm

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Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
How much of the internet do you feel has bled/is bleeding out into RL? In society at large and in your own life/day to day?

How do you feel about this? Does it feel like what was once a very separate thing from RL now blurs and toes the line with what's tangible?

I'd love to know people's opinions. I find it's a fascinating topic.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the Internet is bleeding into RL, much more than I would like. Part of it was the corona mess, with everyone being trapped in their homes and desperate for distraction, and the Interwebs were Right There. Everyone got used to being online a lot, plus smart phones fix it so accessing the Internet is much easier and more convenient than it used to be.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Unless I need to have detailed technical discussions, I communicate a lot at work with meme gifs. Luckily, I have a boss and the technology to support this (I also WFH 100%). I do end up having to teach one of my co-workers what most of the memes mean, though. She literally did not understand "Sure, Jan".

I don't feel this is much of a change for me personally at all. My friends at school all used to use movie quotes as shorthand in communication, and now we just get those references from the internet instead. It actually seems to make it a bit more universal.

Probably says a lot more about my experience of the informality of the modern workplace than it does about internet/RL barriers.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
There is little functional divide between online life and offline life these days, the line had been pretty blurred for the last few years anyway but the pandemic was the final straw on that one. Me? I'd roll it back to the 56k modem being state of the art days, if I could. Hell, I'd go back to pre-31st August 1993 days if I had the chance.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not that fussed. It just feels like it's a media forum that went from obscure to ubiquitous in the same way radio and tv must have before it as adoption slowly became universal.

One thing hiwever I don't like is how knowledge of the fanfic side of fandom has become mainstream, but it's still an 'embarrassing' hobby to be open about. Like, you can cosplay or watch anime or do dnd or game competitively and that's all fine, but if you write fanfic for a hobby you're still a weirdo. But that's because everyone knows that fanfic is full of degenerate porn lol.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Shut up, anti.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I know fanfic is full of degenerate porn because I write it, lol

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Fanfic IS full of degenerate porn... why are you acting like that's a bad thing?

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
You say it as if normies don't see cosplay or anime as being full of degenerate porn lol. Frankly I would be rather known as the fic writer, but that's not me. Fic writing gave the world 50SOG. Anime and cosplay gave the world, uh, Asia Carrera maybe. Love her but.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I actually think the internet is partially responsible for normies not seeing anime as degenerate porn anymore. It used to be that if I told people I liked anime, they'd almost always say "Why do you like weird cartoon porn?" (usually in a more politely phrased way, but that was the gist) That almost never happens anymore because most non-fandom people are at least passingly familiar with some popular anime.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Not sure? I would think that Pokemon or Sailor Moon are more popular than Boku no Pico.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yes. I'm saying people don't think all anime is porn anymore, because now they know what popular anime there are so they think of shows like Pokemon and Sailor Moon when I say I like anime.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, okay. But Pokemon and Sailor Moon (and before that Speed Racer or whatever) were on TV so why would they think it is all porn? Unless they were exposed to anime hentai on the Internet, lol. We seem to be talking about different age cohorts maybe.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
That is something I struggle with on the daily. Particularly because, growing up from an era when our online identities were almost expected to be totally separate from our real lives like the Supermen to our everyday Clark Kents into today... has been weird. Having been a fandom content creator but a "low profile" person IRL all this time, in the beginning I didn't bother having separate accounts for "different identities" so I still have a lot of online fandom friends of the oldens on Facebook for instance.

At some point people seem to have made choices, either "by the way, this identity is me too" and went on to work with fandom-related stuff, as a main or a side job, while others went "never saw her" and virtually erased their previous online identities. And, maybe it's the neurodivergent in me that sees and understand human actions logically but doesn't know how to act accordingly, since there was no one I could imitate as this was an unprecedented occurence (Internet and bleeding into RL that is) I just didn't know what to do and my life became VERY weird and confusing because of it all. The quarantine kinda helped me organize my thoughts by distancing myself from both sides (working locally and cons lol) and realizing just how much I was juggling while I tried to keep Mary Jane from finding out I was Spiderman or something, but it's still very confusing to me and my sense of identity is a little skewed up because of it all, to the point that going offline into my miserable life feels better sometimes (often) than being online in this new web. Also I miss my creative outlets. UX webdesigning for the corporate web is not creative at all. Wow, anyway, sorry for venting. Dis messy

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's bleeding into RL a little too uncomfortably close. I tend to keep my socials fairly non-connected yet I feel them becoming more and more connected. People expect a face with an account. And IDK.

The internet is becoming a shared public space like walking through another part of town like a public park or something (is how I've been sort of playing out in my mind lately).

Shopping malls aren't really popular public shared places we go to anymore so "the internet" is becoming more of a public place we all generally share together during our free time.

And like a socially awkward child who prefers to exist in obscure places of relative anonymity who is suddenly having their space invaded by the rest of the world, I find it suffocating and like a place I can exist comfortably in anymore. I find myself coming here less and less.

Even literally here, F!S, I am wondering if even in anon status I am continually coming here in unhealthy ways and I should consider taking a break from here. I've been finding myself giving up fandom after fandom of trying to get into them and often lately I just keep coming back to seeing that it's this whole "present a personality on a public platform" that I struggle with.

Back in the late 1990s/2000s, there was something easy in knowing the spaces I went to "online" had a very certain version of myself that can be detached from the parts of me that weren't online.

Now though...I don't know. Again, I feel like so much of opening yourself up on these public platforms you're just leaving crumbs of yourself everywhere. And unlike real crumbs they all don't disappear quickly. Some of it can remain on here forever, just not in the ways you want it to.

I've opened up to a friend that I have a tendency to run away from intimacy because I'm afraid of getting hurt. The internet does so much damage, if I feel like it's too easy to attach the "real" me to the internet, I don't want to be on here like I've been on here for as long as I've been on here.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like I don't have much of a leg to stand on here given I met my husband on a writing website almost 19 years ago. For me, the internet bleeding into RL began long before internet-connected tech became mainstream, so the transition for me was strangely easy.

Re: Internet Bleeding into RL

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing I've noticed most is how mean people have become, not just here, but just about everywhere online. I got savaged on another comm for saying I liked a movie that other people didn't.