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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-02-25 04:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #5895 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5895 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-02-25 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Google what happened to Salman Rushdie.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2023-02-25 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
What on earth does that have to do with someone writing books that include Islamic lore? Yes, what happened to him was awful. But he was very specifically attacking and mocking Islam. That doesn't mean that anyone who even mentions Islam or uses it in their writing is going to have that happen to them.

Honestly, if you are serious and not a troll, you are coming across as very prejudiced and not particularly rational.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-26 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. So Salman Rushdie had it coming, according to you? Siding with the extremists' view of The Satanic Verses in order to defend a government-sanctioned fatwa against an author that led to multiple assassination attempts and maiming is not the enlightened take that you seem to think it is.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2023-02-26 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
What? HOw on earth did you get that from what I said? No, that's not what I said at all. I was saying that the extremists specifically go after people critical of Islam, not anyone who mentions it.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-26 09:24 am (UTC)(link)
But it's no telling what these people choose as the next thing to get offended about, that's the issue.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-26 11:11 am (UTC)(link)
Well SOMEBODY is being a little troll today.
That or you're very desperate for fisty cuffs in the comments.

OP here

(Anonymous) 2023-02-25 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
> ignores the fact that people have been writing about religion for centuries and that many sanctioned killings have taken place, especially under Christian rulers.
> points out one example of someone being attacked by a Muslim extremist, insulting my religion by implying that its populated entirely by aggressive nutjobs.
> "I win the internet today guys!"

But seriously, your tunnel vision in showing. Sure, Islamic extremism is a prevalent problem in the world today, but don't forget that extremism has existed in religion long before Islam was even founded. Hell, even before any of the Abrahamic religions were founded. So don't make this out to be like its some "muslim specific" thing.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2023-02-25 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
"Other religions did this too in the past so it's not a big deal when my religion does it or at least it shouldn't be specifically mentioned."
Nah.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2023-02-25 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
No one here is saying that religious extremism is NBD. No one is even coming close to saying that.

But it is wrong to associate Islam as a religion in its entirety with the actions of fundamentalist religious extremists, and to bring up religious fundamentalists in a discussion that had nothing at all to do with the topic.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2023-02-26 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Like really, people aren't going around claiming all Christians are basically the Westboro Baptist Church.

... well, not outside r/atheism anyway.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2023-02-26 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
Idk, I do see "the Christian churches have paedophilia scandals so every pastor/preacher etc. is a potential pedo" all the time so...
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Re: OP here

[personal profile] philstar22 2023-02-25 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Except anyone who thinks all Muslims are extremists and are okay with extremist actions like this are absolutely prejudiced and ignorant. Yes, there are Muslim extremists doing awful things. But they in no way represent all Muslims, and in fact most Muslims disavow their actions and stand against them.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2023-02-26 09:25 am (UTC)(link)
Except they do not. At least not particularly vocally.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2023-02-26 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
There's a teacher in the UK living under police protection because he showed - with warnings beforehand so anyone who would be offended could leave - a religious cartoon. It was on a talk about censorship. There were protests about it from Muslims, even though it's just a sodding picture and he prevented offence by warning people. Now he and his family live in fear of their lives. Because of a picture.

You can fuck right off. You're all barbarians.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2023-02-26 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
You are a racist. Go away.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2023-02-26 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
No, actually I'm not. Race has fuck all to do with this. I don't like Islam based on the attitudes pretty much every Muslim displays towards LGBTQ, people of other religions, people of no religion... Assholes the lot.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2023-02-26 11:13 am (UTC)(link)
I live in the UK and I haven't heard about this - where did you hear about it?

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2023-02-26 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Search for UK teacher Islam cartoon and you'll find several news articles about this. I'm not from the UK and still heard about it.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-25 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh, prejudice and bigotry. Do bog off.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-26 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
Right back at'cha, right back to the bronze age with that.