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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-03-18 04:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #5916 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5916 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Sign me up. I'm an american who has to live with the very real chance of getting gunned down randomly in the grocery store, and I don't even get to have a house.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
The murder rate in the US is not actually that high - higher than it should be but still not that high

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Still gonna be higher than a little village of population ~500.

Even with a murder once a week for six episodes every thirty years.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Multiple die in most Midsomer episodes iirc. Also they went to a bunch of different villages? I do t know I'm sure someone has done the math.

But regardless of that - even just using the figures you gave, with a murder once a week for six episodes a year in a village of 500, that would be a murder rate 150 times greater than the US.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't say six episodes a year. I said 'six episodes every thirty years', poking light fun at the UK's tendency to produce very short seasons over a very long period of time.

But sure, you keep digging.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Midsomer has done about 4 to 6 every year on average, they're a machine.

But, look, any way you figure the numbers, it's going to be the same result - the murder rate in Midsomer Murders is way higher than in the US. Which makes sense given it's a murder detective show, obviously! But the whole thing of vastly overstating the American murder and crime rate bugs me, because people overestimating the number of murders that take in America is a mistaken belief that's extremely consequential.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, since you're clearly not getting this, I'll say it slower:

It was a joke.

I honestly do not care about how many murders there are in the US on an annual basis, or how many episodes of Midsomer are actually produced. It was a light-hearted dig at the infamously slow production rate of UK television shows. That is all.

Now would you please put that American flag down before you take someone's eye out?

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole subthread was started by an American talking about the murder rate in the US being higher than the murder rate in Midsomer... the conversation was about America from the start???

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
My dude. It's a tongue-in-cheek reply to a tongue-in-cheek secret on a community for sharing silly secrets about TV shows.

Go outside. Get some fresh air. If you absolutely must die on this hill, go and find some people who actually give a shit and aren't just shitposting.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-19 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, the first comment of this thread absolutely does not read as obviously tongue-in-cheek. Saying you have to "live with the very real chance of getting gunned down randomly" is not as light-hearted as you seem to think it is. Ending it with a more joke-y observation doesn't negate that.

It is kinda funny to me that you're telling ayrt that they're taking it too seriously when you've also picked a weird hill to die on.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-19 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
OP of the thread

You are correct that I was being very serious, and I have the stats to prove it. The Midsomer murder rate is estimated to be 3.2 per 100,000. The US murder rate is 7.8 per 100,000 as of 2020. I am being very serious when I say my chances of being murdered would go DOWN if I could move there. And I would get a house (which is another entirely serious dig at the housing crisis in the US leading to a staggering amount of homelessness and mental health problems).

I find it amusing that everyone in this thread is either making a joke (I approve) or being defensive and trying bad math to defend the indefensible. Maybe try joking instead? Unless you wanna die on a hill you're renting...

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
That's only because the government deliberately excludes Cabot Cove, Maine from the calculations.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
lol

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
This comment makes this entire thread worthwhile.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Radio 4 estimates the Midsomer murder rate to be 3.2 per 100,000. The US murder rate is 7.8 per 100,000 as of 2020. I'll take the cottage, please.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-19 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's easy to overestimate the Midsomer murder rate, especially as an American, because the way they're shown on US TV you don't really get the context that it's actually a large county of probably over a million people, and it's been going for 22 years. If was a single small village with an episode a week like Cabot Cove you'd be right. But it averages a murder only once a month or so over that 22 years, which is probably less than my American county the same size.

(The ones in my county are of course about 90% mundanely horrible partner abuse and robberies gone wrong, not ridiculously byzantine plots involving gargoyles falling off of church roofs or whatever, but the rate is about the same.)

On the other hand, it's easy to overestimate the murder rate in the US because people actively lie about it for purposes of racist fearmongering, so I'm with you actually.

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
it’s actually my dream to move countries and settle down in an English village like the ones in Midsommer Murders, but I know I’ll never have the money for it until I can sell the family house (parents are still alive, I know I’ll inherit it bc my brother and sister already have their own properties. I’ll sell up and move then)

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope you'll someday achieve this dream :)))

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, it's millions to live in a village with no crime. You get expensive elite idyllic rural England, and then you get grindingly poor drug riddled rural England. :/

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Brother and sister might conspire to murder you, though, instead of letting you inherit peacefully! They might have debts you know nothing about!!!

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2023-03-19 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
nah they both have decent paying jobs and families they wouldn’t bother to murder their spinster sister

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2023-03-19 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
But the spinster sisters/aunts with no direct heir of their own are among the most endangered species in these shows!

(Anonymous) 2023-03-18 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The murder rate keeps property prices affordable, at least. The only place in England it is. Just like in Cabot Cove used to be before it's murder rate collapSed at the start of the year

(Anonymous) 2023-03-19 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
You should watch Hanzawa-san on Netflix, this is a show literally about that, but set in Japan (coming to a place where lots of murders have happened, so most rental places are cheap, but... with some history to it).