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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-04-24 05:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #5953 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5953 ⌋

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2023-04-24 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It’s like abortion. If you don’t want to ban some people from getting abortions, you’re not anti-abortion, and if you don’t want to ban some shipfics, you’re not anti-ship. (Anti-shippers make up shit about “grooming” to try to make fic bans sound necessary, but anti-abortion activists make up shit about “partial-birth abortions,” too.)

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
This. We can even extend the analogy - pro-choice is basically the same thing as pro-ship. Don't want to read a pairing? Then don't. But don't try to ban me from reading it.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly, this.

I wouldn't call someone who just doesn't like a ship and minds their own business an "anti." It's when they start screaming that a certain ship is "pedophilia," it's "illegal," or otherwise someone inherently immoral to the extent that people having fun with it NEED TO BE STOPPED that the term comes in.

I've seen a lot of people misuse "pro-ship" too. It doesn't even necessarily mean anyone has any ships that are anything other than tame and vanilla themselves, it just means they take a ship-and-let-ship attitude. Exactly like you don't need to have an abortion yourself or even be capable of getting pregnant to be pro-choice, you just need to mind your own business and support others' rights.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-25 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
This is a great analogy, thank you for it.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-25 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. I don't blame people for getting confused thought, I feel both "Anti" and "Proship/Anti-Anti" lost their meaning a while ago.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-25 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
A great analogy.