[ SECRET POST #5953 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5953 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 25 secrets from Secret Submission Post #851.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[case]

Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

(If you think something in this thread is a troll, please ignore it! Conversation is fine, but OT wank makes stuff harder to keep track of in this thread. Thanks.)

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[(Anonymous)]

Well, exactly! I think it makes much more sense to say "This character isn't really good" when a normally selfish character helps the good guys for their own strategic reasons.

[(Anonymous)]

Fans that like evil characters are fine. Fans that like evil characters and then try to make them good, or explain away their evil, or make them sad victims, not fine.

[feotakahari]

I would call “helps people when it benefits them, and hurts people when it benefits them” neutral.

(Both Zapp Brannigan and the narrator in a Brandon Sanderson novel have argued this makes neutral people worse than evil people. That’s why I don’t read Sanderson anymore.)

[meadowphoenix]

Well...evil is a construction. it's constructed by the book (the author), the audience, and the society in which each live. you could describe anti-heros in those exact terms, and generally they are not supposed to be interpreted as evil. you could describe some hero-protaganists in those exact terms too.

I'm assuming what you're saying here is that you firmly believe the media is guiding you toward "these people are evil" and if the people you're talking about are applying this inconsistently, that's one thing. but to some people being an asshole is too common for their concept of evil. which doesn't have to be the same as yours.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, this highlights one of the reasons I kind of dislike the word "evil" in the first place. It's incredibly nebulous and ill-defined, yet as a label it's very black-and-white; you're either evil or you're not.

Personally, while I'm willing to use the word evil as short-hand in conversations about media, I don't actually believe in it IRL. And the more nuanced and sophisticated the storytelling, the more I tend to chafe against the notion of a character being "evil."

If a narrative is actually sophisticated enough to make me think about the nature of evil, then I'm probably already at the point where, for my own purposes, I'd rather define the story's antagonist(s) in other, more nuanced terms.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it can depend on context, like a character can be very amoral and self-interested without being evil because their actions aren't horrific and only affect a small number of people, ie: they're not murdering people but they might be stealing and doing other unlawful things to get what they want.

Whether you like the character or not doesn't define their morality, their actions do.

[(Anonymous)]

It's one kind of evil, yes.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh. IRL I would call that evil and maybe in some fiction if the worldbuilding flawlessly shows that as being the societal definition of evil. But in most media I tend to think of people as evil only if they hurt others mainly for the pleasure they get from hurting others.

Thank you secret maker!

[(Anonymous)]

Look, if I had to sit through a video of a guy claiming Asmodeus (Gold/Arch Devil of contracts, pride, slavery and tyranny) isn't *really* evil because he doesn't *enjoy* hurting people he just enjoys the *result* of hurting people you have too to.

(<3 <3 <3 at the picture choice ilu! I <3 Amiri.)

[(Anonymous)]

I would see that is evil adjacent, like the people who passively accept Russians in their life right now, but true evil needs an active component. Like actually out to deliberately cause pain.

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[(Anonymous)]

I agree. It looks like a comfy lounge.

I was just watching Picard and they had a bridge that was all shiny reflective black surfaces and the captains chair was up a bunch of steep steps, which with all the times people get thrown around just seemed like bad starship design.

[(Anonymous)]

Reminds me of Grandma's station wagon.

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[(Anonymous)]

you're a typical twitter activist that isn't a target audience or a paying customer. No one cares about your opinion. Buy a game or gacha first then talk.

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[(Anonymous)]

No, definitely not. The thing with Sisko is that he has his own moral code that he sticks to closely. He's fiercely independent in terms of his morals. So, yes, he'll do things that other Starfleet officers might not do. But he isn't going to be a tool of a group like Section 31. See also, the whole coup plotline.

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[(Anonymous)]

The thing with "anti" us that there are people who use it as a self-descriptor, and imo that is kinda the only reliable way to use it

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[feotakahari]

If you can change people’s minds by talking to them, you can probably change their minds online. But I admit that’s a big “if.”

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NS, NF, etc.

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General comments:

(If the thread contains spoilery/triggery content please warn/post as 2nd comment so it collapses!
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Read any good books lately?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm in a reading slump. :(

The last book I read and enjoyed was The Cybernetic Tea Shop by Meredith Katz. Cute story about an asexual human falling in love with a robot that runs a tea shop. My main complaint was that it was too short!

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Games thread!

Inspired by Secret 3, my Genshin and Dislyte IDs!

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Genshin Impact: UID 635445786
Dislyte: 13997420 on the server Infinite Miracle.