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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-04-24 05:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #5953 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5953 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
you're using the term 'troll' incorrectly. Fyi it doesn't mean someone you disagree with. It means spam or personal atacks or absurdity that was posted just to rile someone up and for no other reason.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
So this response implies that you think that no one trolls by using the term "anti" incorrectly, and that when people use the term "anti", they're always doing so sincerely even if others disagree.

And I am just curious why you think that, or what on earth the evidence could be that would support that view. Because it definitely seems to me like there are some posts that call things "anti" in a trollish way.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
wdym by 'trollish'? This's just another example of people not understanding the word 'troll' right here. You meant provocative.

Idk why you think it implies that. No one and everyone are 2 extremes that have no meaning. I haven't seen the word anti used here often since the tumblr downfall that was ages ago. I have seen the word troll and whatever-phobe far more often.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
wdym by 'trollish'? This's just another example of people not understanding the word 'troll' right here. You meant provocative.

I think it's reasonable to call something a troll if it's bad faith and provocative.

I haven't seen the word anti used here often since the tumblr downfall that was ages ago.

I don't have a link at hand and I'm not gonna spend time to find one, so you can dismiss this if you want I guess, but there are multiple times I recall in the past year where I saw it used in ways that seemed wildly implausible and that felt like they were intended to be provocative.

And I don't get what the impulse is for saying out of hand that trolling almost never happens. There is a strong and consistent pattern of doing this (claiming that people are constantly calling troll while dismissing the idea that people make trollish posts) and I don't understand why.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
DA - Yup, seconding all of this.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
If the secrets here are not worded at least ~a bit provocatively no one would react to them. That is not trolling because there's no malicious targeting and these secrets are not completely made up.

You've seen anti misused more than once in the past, wait for it, year. Which is a lot for you.
You've seen a 'consistent pattern' of dismissing trolling as a not-trolling.
Ok, fine.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It would seem to me that people who deliberately misuse a term just to mess with people are trolling. It's not a personal disagreement, it's people coming in and fucking around with words just for fun and confusion.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Misusing a word is fun, confusing and is meant to cause genuine distress? I can't imagine it. At all.

I'm sure that people that call people they disagree with trolls are just stupid and are not, in fact, trolling me. Because that's not a way to troll someone.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Deliberately misusing a word you know is contentious, for the purpose of provocative discord, is a very clear example of trolling.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
da
calling anything you don't like trolling is also trolling then.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
da
no.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
And calling accusations of trolling you don't agree with is also trolling

And it's turtles all the way down

(Anonymous) 2023-04-25 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Sure. If you go around calling troll with the specific intent of sewing discord, while not actually believing your own accusations, then yeah, you're right, that is another example of trolling.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-25 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
SA - *sowing

(Anonymous) 2023-04-25 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
But how do you know everyone who misuses the word does so deliberately? Maybe they're just as confused an secret!OP.

(Anonymous) 2023-04-25 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
We can never know these things for sure (unless the troll admits to it, which rarely happens). But the same can be said of most instances of trolling. If the person is speaking in earnest, then it's not trolling, yet we all have a threshold where we become comfortable with assuming they are not speaking in earnest. *shrug*

(Anonymous) 2023-04-24 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Excellent trolling sir.