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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-07 05:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #5966 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5966 ⌋

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OP from yesterday's Genshin secret

(Anonymous) 2023-05-08 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
Hello, sorry for not replying as I needed a weekend for myself (and to clean my messy house, honestly) so I didn't check F!S. Thanks for all the kind replies, you rock. :)

Just wanted to make one thing clear because a lot of people didn't get it, and my (verbose) wording is to blame.
Some people replied things like "I can't relate because I am F2P" and "if you're an adult and can't control your savings ...".
I was a F2P player. Hence why I said I "never understood" the struggles of people who have a lot to spend on gacha before. I am chronically disabled and don't have money to spend on most nice games, this is why I played Genshin (for free) actually. And I never stress-pulled for the same reason why I never stress-spent, no money to waste.
This is why I mentioned spending *spoons* not *money*. The secret was intended exactly as a "hey, I thought it would never happen to me but guess what. My mistake, but also, learned my lesson".

On that day I wasted my in-game currency carelessly since I was stressed out and got it for "free" anyway, not thinking of spoons (time, energy) I had spent on them because the banner I wanted so much happened to be released in my worst stress day in a while. So I didn't have fun pulling, got frustrated. If I had money to spare, I would've (the maximum you can spend for one character is 180, so at 148 I was pretty close). I didn't, so I ran out of (in-game currency) savings and that was it.
And I was going to quit playing in January (because my issues with Genshin Impact, its community and its company run way deeper than "it's gacha") but didn't because THIS banner lured me in and I thought getting this character would make the game fun again (abusive relationship dynamics) so I kept "wasting spoons" to play it and save in-game currency only to get further disappointed in it.
Way back when I loved this game and really like(d?) some aspects such as characters and lore, and was pretty active in fandom/fanworks, so quitting the game also means I will stop talking to some people and so on.
This is why I was really disappointed. It felt like "spoons wasted for months for further disappointment, now thanks to my luck I will stop enjoying this story and talking to these people as I am not even lucky enough to be born rich or healthy enough to keep a proper job unlike other players". I had a VERY unlucky day then and also had a horrible day at my job prior to getting home. So it was REALLY depressing.

Of course I mistakenly counted too much on this one thing to make me feel like "I win" and cheer me up but it wasn't the root cause of my misery. I know I am addiction-prone, my family is full of alcoholics and young-onset OCD runs in our blood as well. This is why I said I acknowledge it's not the gacha's fault. And sure it's designed to do this to people at their lowest. I just had never felt it personally. Now I have! That's all.

To the Genshin fans who commented I never built the Traveler. I really like catalyst/claymore users and wanted Baizhu since Liyue chapter. So when the banner was leaked (in February IIRC) I was hoping to get "Baizhu, and Kaveh if I am lucky, and then I will start HAVING FUN in Sumeru in May (that's 9 months after release) instead of pushing my way through with characters I do not like" .
I actually can't play bow characters because 1) visual impairment issues (actual. physical. diagnosed.) 2) coordination issues, 3) mobile player. So I don't use Collei. And didn't get Yaoyao because I was thinking of quitting in January as I said (not even Alhaitham made me log in). This banner was my reason (or excuse) to stay so I regretted all that happened a lot more than any other person would.

But I am doing a lot better today. I mean, it was the push I needed to change my relationship with this game. Like that abusive relationship in which you gamble to see if the person will stay because you like them even though they're bad to you and they don't, so you're like "it hurts, but tomorrow is another day".

Re: OP from yesterday's Genshin secret

(Anonymous) 2023-05-08 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)

Good to hear that things are better. And I hear you on the frustration of spending spoons on things that don't bring joy.

Re: OP from yesterday's Genshin secret

(Anonymous) 2023-05-08 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks a lot, anon! :) Yeah, it's painful.

Re: OP from yesterday's Genshin secret

(Anonymous) 2023-05-08 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh. I'm glad you clarified. And also that you made a secret about this, and clarified when people misunderstood it. A lot of people don't take their time seriously enough to admit that feeling like it's lost to them is a big loss. But that feels entirely valid to me.

Also, I play Genshin, and while there are things I like about it, I really don't like how time consuming it is and how they periodically set things out that they will take away later!

Re: OP from yesterday's Genshin secret

(Anonymous) 2023-05-08 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, it's true. And a lot of people in the Genshin community throw around "if you don't like it then why are you playing?", as if everyone had to enjoy every single aspect of the game, which naturally isn't true.

Exactly, that's one thing that bothers me. :( I like to take things slowly, unless I am on a longer break in which case I like to play like there is no tomorrow and catch up. Also, I don't really care for the combat aspect, which is exactly why no "competitor" (Honkai included) interests me remotely. But the whales subsist on it, so of course that's going to be the focus, because that's what "the community" (the whales) wants. So I started feeling forced to GRIND & PULL!!! in order to enjoy the other aspects (collecting, exploring, digital photography, teapot, lore and fandom and so on). There isn't a commercially viable solution for this, but it's annoying regardless.

Re: OP from yesterday's Genshin secret

(Anonymous) 2023-05-09 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've seen that quite a bit, and it seems entirely unhelpful to me. I figure fans on the US server are jumpy because early on, people were attacking every aspect of the game simply because it came from China, though. They didn't admit what their actual problem was honestly, either, so people wasted time trying to offer advice. Only to find out the point was denigrating Genshin and claiming just about anything you could be playing, made by a studio in some other country, was superior to it. But it's still sucky that about the only complaint that will get everyone to commiserate is "I can't stand Paimon!"

Hm. As far as I know, a few things can help with the fights. One is to choose your team based on which characters pack a punch. Noelle is a tank and a healer and the more leveled up she is, the less you have to avoid enemies. If you're not trying to abyss run, four characters that you use comfortably can be better than a bunch you're having to distribute limited resources among. Another thing is to level up your characters' talents and weapons. And, like, it's possible to hold your world-level back far enough that your characters grow to overpower just about everything they meet in the overworld (with the trade off that the enemy drops get sparser: if you can kill a Hilli in two hits, it's more likely to disintegrate without leaving its mask behind). The other thing is to use the artifacts from those two sets that all the arena bosses drop - Wanderer's Troupe and Gladiator's Finale, I think? - instead of going to the artifact domains, which are notoriously crap. Another possibility is to get someone higher level to help you, because then coop fights and bounties and bosses are generally over in a fraction of the time it would take to do them alone.

But eesh, I wrote all this and you're quitting the game. And I don't even disagree with your quitting the game, that might be the better option than messing with the parts that are boring and repetitive. And man, there are a lot of those.

Re: OP from yesterday's Genshin secret

(Anonymous) 2023-05-09 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, I love Paimon. I think this sums up why I am quitting. I truly, honestly love her. Her voice doesn't annoy me at all (Nahida's does, tbh.) and I like how she voices out my bubbly neuron not the one that goes "the abyss which is really just a metaphor for the darkness in our hearts is going to consume us a--" everyday.

Thanks, haha, it's okay. I may have tried everything. I mained Noelle (among others) since I started playing but the amount of time spent in overworld fights got annoying. Sure I didn't die but I didn't kill the enemies either. I managed to NOT get every meta husbando I ever pulled for (Kazuha, Zhongli, etc.) so maybe that's partly why, but the husbando rooster feels lacking lately. And I leveled up talents but only ever farmed artifacts for my faves and never "understood" artifact-ing (eww calcs). Being F2P meant having little access to weapons (my only 5*s were the Skyward swords, lol) and being unlucky didn't help (want a spare R5 Bell?). Being AR 55+ meant I could only lower my WL so much, unfortunately (if I could lower it to 5 I would). I am not the most popular or gregarious person either, truthfully. So I really tried but the passion I felt in the very beginning (good ol' days when I rushed to AR 35 in a little over a week so I could build a teapot for my future harem lol) never came back.

And that's fine, I guess it's time to accept I outgrew it or it outgrew me. It's not *easy* to quit because I still like a lot of things, but the one thing I don't like is the company's priority, and I have... a lot of things to take care of in real life so I can't get addicted to a game that's extremely time-demanding. There are, for sure.