[ SECRET POST #5968 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5968 ⌋

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[Shadow and Bone]



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[Soul Sacrifice]



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[Spy x Family]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Commenting in the hopes that someone will explain what rationalist fics are without me having to google.

[(Anonymous)]

A quick google through tvtropes tells me its a fic less about character issues, and more with trying to solve stuff. It doesn't so much follow rules of drama compared to problems both reader and character have to follow logically. Seems to be a genre in which characters follow things logically.

I think an example would be a Revenge of the Sith AU where Anakin doesn't let his impulsive nature save and follow Palpatine, the Jedi discover he's Darth Sidius, but act slowly and methodically in order to undo him, with their enemy doing the same at every turn, thus requiring you to analyze stuff.

I'm... half and half. I love to over-think stuff, but not just about the world and actions taken, but because I also like characters being human. One thing is having them all follow their impulses of the barest moment and fucking things up over and over; but another is letting go of the passion of a story and motives, to the point you treat it more as a puzzle.

The ur example is Harry Potter And The Methods Of Rationality

[(Anonymous)]

Imagine Harry Potter as a child raised in a very scientific household who measures everything via making test cases and seeing what happens. The first half of the story is him trying to find the logical rules underpinning magic. It then moves into a story where everyone is doing plots and counterplots and countercounterplots against each other, trying to figure out their moves based on what information they have.

[(Anonymous)]

The idea is that the worldbuilding and characterisation is examined by one or more characters starting from the canon starting point and, instead of behaving as they do in canon, examine their situation rationally. Sometimes this can be briefly interesting, but it almost always relies on the other characters never having thought of these "rational" solutions in the first place when that's not the rules that canon runs on. So I find them very frustrating, but I would be interested in one that doesn't come off like the writer showing that they are the only intelligent person in a world full of sheeple.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

The other thing about this is that Rationalist fics, even ones not written by Eliezer Yudkowsky, tend to end up talking about the same sorts of things that inspire Eliezer Yudkowsky's Rationalist nonfiction. For reference, Yudkowsky thinks the U.S. should bomb other countries if they carry out A.I. research, because A.I. research will result in the extinction of humanity. I once read what I thought was going to be a cute Frozen shipfic, and it turned out the author was using Olaf as a metaphor for evil A.I. I wish I was fucking kidding!

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

What about American AI research? Who bombs the bombers??