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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-12 05:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #5971 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5971 ⌋

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05. [WARNING for Andrew Tate and associated discussion]




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(Anonymous) 2023-05-12 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, some degree of self-loathing and internalized misogyny comes with the territory re: female conservative fundamentalist Christians. It can't be otherwise.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-12 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
But it's frustrating, because he doesn't share any of their other values. He sells women doing sex acts, he has multiple women at once, AND he's a Muslim...

(Anonymous) 2023-05-12 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
And yet... conservative fundamentalists also show a lot of support for Trump, which doesn't make sense for very similar reasons.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-13 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
There's a famous line about the definition of conservatism: "there must be an in-group whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

In other words - the intellectual logic of conservatism is not really about consistency or the universal character of moral law. In practice those things are ad-hoc, after-the-fact rationalizations. The logic of conservatism is that there is a group of people who are good and superior and Belong, who benefit from the law but don't actually have to obey it because we all know they're The Right Sort Of Person, and a group of people who are bad and immoral and should be punished whether or not they're guilty of anything because they're The Wrong Sort Of People.

It's a defense of a hierarchical social order, where some people are on top by virtue of their superior social status and birth and nature. And they get to command and benefit from the lower classes, who are below them because of their inferior social status and birth and nature. That's the actual moral logic of conservatism. The fact that Andrew Tate doesn't obey the nominal precepts of social conservatism doesn't matter because he isn't supposed to have to - he's a strong man so what he does is right and moral. Similarly, that Trump is a flagrantly immoral cheater, philanderer, fraud, thief etc doesn't matter because it's fundamentally OK for him to do all of those things. It's aristocracy, it's casteism, it's classism, it's hierarchy, it's authoritarianism - it's all of those things - that's the core of social-moral conservatism in actual practice.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-13 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
I kept trying to upvote this comment like I'm on Reddit or something. Well said.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-13 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds like a typical religious man, tbqh. They are ALL hypocritical pieces of shit.