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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-12 05:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #5971 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5971 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-12 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah yes, the famous *checks notes* documentary where Cleo was black - Xena: Historical Greek Princess

You got me, OP. I'm convinced. Actual Egyptians should sit down and be quiet now

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It's because it plays into a common and pernicious misreading of history OP

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The problem is Netflix claiming it's a documentary when we know that Cleopatra was of Greek decent.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2023-05-12 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
The difference being they are pretending this is a documentary.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-12 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
If it was just that the cast actress is black, I'd agree. But it's in actually claiming that the real Cleopatra was really black that the nonsense comes in.

If you want to explore that idea, write a conspiracy movie along the lines of the Da Vinci Code and go wild.

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It's because it's calling itself a documentary.

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It hurts the cause for real recognition of black historical people. Claiming a person we know was not black as black just makes it easier to dismiss the identities of real black people.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-12 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
To my understanding, the upset is over the international frustration with America's revisionist history of Cleopatra's race.

IMHO I think the anger is cloaked racism playing out as it does in service to white supremacy.
I don't have the education or background to make a strong statement on this.

I get the historical importance of getting the facts straight.

But on the other hand, we would do well to question why we white wash so much of history and make such a big deal out of something that stems from things that are much more complex and multi-layered than just Cleopatra the literal person who existed a long ass time ago before any of us on earth were born.

It's like engaging with people who want to complain about the new "The Little Mermaid". I get that some of the nitpicks are just nitpicks and fans have a right to nitpick, but if racists are coming in with bad faith takes so they can revel in their racism I don't want to be engaging with people like that. If I am to be critical of "The Little Mermaid" I would want to do my homework in not giving racists legit criticisms they can sprinkle in with their racist opinions.
Like, I'm not calling anyone a racist but I am aware that racists love to dehumanize Black women and so complaining that Halle Bailey isn't pretty enough or her hair isn't red enough...even if it's not your intent, it still gives into misogynoir. Participating legitimizes the racists' POV. You would rather have your little soapbox to do a fandom complaint than not give into systemic racism.
That is the issue and I know it's shit pill to swallow but at some point you just have to accept the choices that you make.
I'm aware people will call me a sensitive SJW. Naive and stupid and I read racism into everything.
But I would rather question how something amps up systemic racism than potentially feeding into it.

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How do we know she wasn't black? Not trying to start something, honestly curious.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-13 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
she cheated on her husband btw. Also nepothism.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-13 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Shrug. I think the big complaint is that it claims to be factual.

Since I'm not Egyptian and don't have skin in the game, I'm just going to point out that people... massaging... historical figures to make them more palatable to an intended audience is really not new, and leave it at that.

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That does sound like a terrible fate. But also, an interesting premise on it’s own that has way more potential than to be wasted on just one waifu in a harem story imo.

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I found them hard to ship seriously. I mean, I liked what the show did with them, but he was a real person, she's fictional, that can't go anywhere.

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It's sad, but some women are so starved for male approval and attention that they'll stab other women in the back for it, make up all sorts of excuses for the awful men they stan for, etc. And for what? The selective attention of some hairless scrotum dudebro who hates women? It fair boggles the mind.

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I hope imaginary Samus comforted them a little. :(

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Can someone explain this to me?

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[personal profile] fscom 2023-05-12 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
NS, NF, etc.

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What are your favorite headcanons? Especially ones that are definitely not canon.

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