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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-12 05:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #5971 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5971 ⌋

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04. [SPOILERS for The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel]




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05. [WARNING for Andrew Tate and associated discussion]




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(Anonymous) 2023-05-12 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
First of all, it is not 'America' that is trying to revise history here. It is a specific movement among African-American black nationalists. Describing it as 'American' misunderstands what is going on (and tbh it also undercuts your broader point in some ways but w/e).

Second, to me, the reason to object to rewriting Cleopatra as black is because it is a revisionist conspiratorial misreading of history. It's an abuse of history for political ends, it's not a valid or legitimate weapon in any kind of struggle against racism, and it's wrong. Revionist ethnonationalists who want to distort history are wrong and we should stand against nationalism that has to justify itself with bullshit conspiratorial historical mythmaking, whoever it's coming from.

Third, if you want to say that people objecting to Cleopatra being black are doing the same thing as people objecting to Ariel being black.... you really need to do a lot more to establish that argument. Because they aren't the same thing. One is a historical figure and one is a fixtop Al character. Similarly if you want to say that objecting to Cleopatra being depicted as black is cloaked racism you *have* to provide some kind of argument or justification for that.