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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-28 04:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #5987 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5987 ⌋

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Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I live in a pretty liberal area in west coast Canada and this shit is still super common. Literally all of my friends parents had this dynamic, my mother and her SO have it, and several of my friends have it in their marriages. I'm honestly curious where you live that you've somehow found an oasis away from this crap.

Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
This

Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt hasn't found any kind of sexism oasis. They just don't see it because it seems so normal.

Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
This does seem like the most likely answer.

As someone who grew up very much blue-collar working-class, with most of my friends and acquaintances in the same general social class, I do wonder if gender bullshit perhaps manifests somewhat differently among the well-off and the upwardly-mobile white-collar classes? I'm not even hypothesizing that it does, just genuinely wondering.

I mean, it does kind of make sense to me that the more you can afford to outsource your menial daily tasks to others (daycare, baby-sitters, nannies, restaurants, take-out, meal kits, spending more on food that's easier to put together, house-cleaning services, paying people to come fix things as soon as they break, buying convenient household devices and amenities, dry-cleaning, buying good shit that's less likely to have issues in the first place, etc. etc. etc.) the less of a glaring problem the unequal division of household labor is likely to be. But I honestly have no idea.

I'm also not suggesting that upper and upper-middle class people deal with less ingrained sexism on the whole; I'm only pondering whether it might manifest slightly differently depending on things like socioeconomic status, etc.

Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-30 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck off, I knew I'd get a response like this which is why I added that I LOOK FOR THIS SHIT and still don't see it. I'm aware it's normalized and attempt to open my eyes by actively trying to see the thing you're telling me I ignore because it's normalized. I still don't.

AYRT telling y'all where I live

(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
United States, a mid-sized city roughly halfway down the East Coast.

Re: AYRT telling y'all where I live

(Anonymous) 2023-05-30 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Also East Coast and yeah, I can't say I've ever really seen it here either.

Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-29 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I grew up in New England and I can't say this type of behavior is something I grew up seeing. I've seen it since in friends relationships, but it's pretty rare even then.

Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-30 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Same, I've seen it but only in men who are in their 60s-70s. Younger guys around here don't act like that.