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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-28 04:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #5987 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5987 ⌋

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Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-30 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry this is frustrating your stop much.

Unfortunately, if you want this to change our stop, you have to either move out or have a sit down adult conversation about how these things frustrate you. And not in the heart of the moment. Including having a plan for how you'd like your husband to act in the future.

Part of me suspects that you might find this incredibly uncomfortable, based on the communication styles shown in this post.

Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-30 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
She probably would find it uncomfortable because they wouldn’t listen even if she had a “sit down adult conversation”.

Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-30 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
That is not the obvious conclusion based on the information she's given us. People are capable of acting differently in casual, day-to-day interactions than in 'we need to talk' serious conversions.

But, if not, she should escalate the conversation to marriage counselling. And if that doesn't work, leave the relationship.

'It will never work' isn't an excuse to not try to fix something broken. The alternative is to continue to be unhappy. But if you refuse to even try to change the situation, then the third option is to accept things the way they are.

Re: Men who don't fucking listen.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-30 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It is, actually, it’s very much the obvious conclusion. And I don’t know why you would say otherwise, after reading the original post? Considering she’s made it clear this happens often. She’s practically spelled out that she isn’t listened to. And while it’s not wrong that people can take things seriously based on different contexts, there’s plenty of reasons to believe they would only get defensive.

I think marriage counseling and leaving the relationship is best.

I never said “it will never work”. But putting all the onus on ayrt to fix what’s broken, and blaming her for everything because of her tone like so many in this thread have, is just adding to the sexist standards women are held to. And there’s no evidence that ayrt “refuses to ever try to change the situation”, but ample evidence that she’s not listened to. Hence the whole repeatedly lecturing her when she doesn’t want something, because he doesn’t listen to her answer. And the fact that this whole putting a bowl currently being used away has happened before, it’s clear that it’s a lack of listening and consideration on his part, not her’s. If he actually listened or thought, he would have learned the first time and not try to put away a bowl that someone else might currently be using. And all he would have to do is ask “are you using this?”, instead of assuming. So she’s justified in being annoyed about this, and everyone blaming her for her tone and “lack of communication” are being disingenuous, and trying to twist reality so she’s to blame when she isn’t. There’s been a lot of actual sexism in the thread, because some people can’t handle men being criticized or held accountable for their behaviors.