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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-17 02:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #6007 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6007 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, same. I've never written Harry Potter fanfic but sometimes I'd like to play around in fandoms that are set in England with English characters only I don't have the confidence that I'd get the details right. I know some would say just to do it anyway, but honestly, I would not enjoy messing up like that even for trivial details.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
League of Extraordinary British Betas on facebook.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Not the OP but I already love the name of this group!

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I miss when fandom was casual and people could respond with helpful things like Brit/American picking and people wouldn't get all defensive and angry and rage at them.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Can't remember when that was!

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been in fandom long enough to have started on usenet and I don't remember those times. Was it back in the print zine-only days?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone should start a subreddit. As a Brit, I'd happily join and answer questions. /u/glitchinggecko

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
...isn't fandom just in the midst of massively leaving Reddit?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone should start a DW comm!

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
I know I have asked on here, but some anons get weirdly hostile to me asking fanfic research questions. I don't know why.

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Some anons get hostile about everything, but people are pretty good at answering a vocabulary question or, like, what's a good example of a cheap used car someone might buy. If you're the person who asks weirdly complicated situational questions and then argues about the answers, that can be slightly annoying but it's on them for engaging.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that would be nice, but I would settle for writers from both the US and UK using 'Mum' and 'Mom' in the right places.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
Confused American here - what are the right places? I used both for my own mother.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT - In that case, you're a massive exception. But the two words sound very different: There's a clear 'oh' sound in the middle of Mom (a front of the mouth sound), while Mum has a 'uh' sound (more middle of the mouth). Americans (outside of you) use 'Mom', while the rest of the English-speaking world generally uses 'Mum'. I believe Ireland has 'Mam', but I'd check that with an Irish person before using it.

I know I find it massively annoying just in subtitles when non-American characters are clearly saying 'Mum' and being subtitled 'Mom'... The times I find fic doing the same (non-American characters calling their mothers 'Mom') is thankfully rare, but enough to make me back right out of it.

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-17 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
There are a lot of 9-1-1 fic writers who could use an American-picking community (and I mean that in the most loving way possible!)

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I feel this. I'm in a different fandom with a U.S.-based canon, and it seems like over half the active writers are Brits, Aussies, Kiwis, Canadians, and others around the world whose knowledge of the English language clearly comes from "Queen's English." Feels like a petty thing to pick on, but on the other hand it's just so glaringly obvious when the characters break into Brit-slang/phrasing.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Ha, yes, I'm an Aussie and I used to always get an Ameri-picker for my US-set fic. Right now I'm not into any US-based fandoms, so that's fine, but I would be hesitant to post fic without one.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
My favorite "oh, you're not from around here" moment was the "The Mentalist" fic where someone drove from San Antonio to Sacramento in eight hours.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-06-18 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, this totally saved me when writing Spike and Giles! I know how annoyed I get when someone inserts Brit or US 'speak' into characters who would never say that/stories that aren't set there, so I was never going to write a non-American character without someone telling me where I'd gone wrong.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Perhaps I'm just lucky, but I've found YouTube to be somewhat helpful for this (or perhaps more learning British English language features in the first place).

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Those were great for basic fact checking and making sure no stray Americanisms slipped into a story, but a lot of those communities were a bit of a clusterfuck when it came to anything cultural. Watching a group of Brits debate whether a specific phrase or activity was real/made up for television/real, but only in this specific region/real, but only in the 1930s/made up by foreigners to make fun of us/made up by us to confuse foreigners was entertaining, but maybe not helpful for writing purposes.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds hilarious, and it's reminding me of a rant I was around for with an exiteable young British teenager harangueing his hostel-mate about everything that was wrong with France. (The latter boy was French. They were both in, um ... I think it was Paraguay?) And it culminated in an exchange about how the French all sucked [having to paraphrase, I'm sorry, it's been too long for me to remember the actual wording] for having invented purple. Or, conversely, how that was an entirely nonsensical accusation because it wasn't possible to INVENT a color. Good times.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
What is Britpicking?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-18 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
https://fanlore.org/wiki/Brit-pick