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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-20 05:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #6010 ]


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(Anonymous) 2023-06-21 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds like a variant idea of the trope. But the original idea of Hanahaki, and indeed the version vast majority of fics use, is unrequited love. I've read a version once where it was about the sufferer's perception of their love interest's feelings (it was always requited, but the sufferer had low self esteem and couldn't believe anyone could actually love them). But in it's most classic form Hanahaki operates on the "if this person doesn't return your feelings you will die" idea.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-21 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
I heard it's the other way around. Originally hanahaki was about the flowers as a metaphor for unspoken confession that would be cured if a confession happened, but it changed into a more literal disease that comes from unrequited love.... But my source was Twitter and might have been someone trying to make the trope origins sound less problematic so they could enjoy it with a clear moral conscience.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-21 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
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Yeah, I saw the same thing but on Tumblr, which ... doesn't mean much.

I also like the variant where it's just any secret / emotion in general, and the hanahaki stops when you confess / admit it.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-21 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
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I've never read a hanahaki story with the confession variant. ...Which doesn't mean much either.
Though I can't see how it makes much difference since protagonist suffering in silence is the main draw of this.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-21 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
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It's less creepy PUA/incel when some OTHER person doesn't HAVE to fall in love to save their life. Just stop being a little bitch and confess like an adult. Problem solved, with no requirements on the other person to respond positively.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-21 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
yeahhhhhhhhh! much less disturbing implications...

(Anonymous) 2023-06-21 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not a huge fan of the trope, but from my limited understanding and experience, the original one is the confession version.
IF it was originated in the Japanese fandom, which I assume it was, the confession version was the only version I ever saw years ago, when it exploded in the novel section of pixiv. (for manga fandom I'm more into japanese fics than english ones)
It was a metaphor for words not said that slowly kills your true self.
You can see this trope a lot also in manga or strips where a character, usually a tsundere, has flowers/hearts around them to signal the fact that they have feelings that they don't say but only think/show. That's the fluffier version of hanahaki I think.
The stories usually end up with a good ending of "THE FEELING IS REQUIRED NOW WE ARE TOGETHER", but the required love is not what solve the hanahaki disease. It's saying the words.

IDK though. Maybe it was originally invented in the western fandom and then adapted into the Japanese one. Who knows.