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This is a bit of a random waffle, but coming across reading a recent AO3 drama going on recently on the updates announcements has got me thinking...

Does anyone else think that there should be more fanfiction websites? I'm not saying this as anti AO3 or anything (I'm still on that site rn with tabs open as I write this lol) - but I've been online long enough to see sites go down or lawsuits/rule changes/etc happen. Even though AO3 is THE best one so far - I guess some part of me worries that if it ever went down for good or something happened to wipe away most of the site then that would be it.

I guess its also why I've been looking into alternatives (saw someone mention in a fanfic tiktok comp that Quotev is one of the sites - which didn't seem bad from what I have seen). I know that I use to go on ffnet whenever AO3 was down, but that site seems to be in danger of being lost with all the fics on there pre-AO3 at any moment. IDK maybe I'm worrying over nothing here, but I guess I like the idea of something being saved in more than one location. Still love AO3 tho.

i support ao3 with my whole chest (and my wallet), but i definitely agree we should have more fanfic sites in case something does happen to the site.

I want there to be alternate sites. I want there to be dozens, hundreds even, of specialized little archives. I want giant sites that scoop up teen attention. I want sites specimade for reader x character fiction.

But ultimately I know anything done for profit will throw us under the bus for advertisers and I don't trust them.

Yeah, probably. But it's hard to build a new site that duplicates existing parts of AO3, becauwe internet communities don't take well to being split across multiple platforms. There's too much network effects. So as long as AO3 is available as an all-in fic platform, it's hard to set something else up and actually get people to use it. Not impossible but hard.

This. I want there to be more fanfic sites, but I also like my fanfic all in one place. Ahh, what a dilemma.

And to be fair, there are a lot of fanfic sites. Just not as big or encompassing as AO3.

...I guess what I'd really like is mirror sites. Like me, personally, I don't mind uploading my stuff in multiple locations (and I keep copies on my own computers of all my fics, so it's not like I can't re-upload them to a new site if one goes down), but I'm not sure how many people would find that tedious. Having external mirrors would be great.

Except then there's issues of authorial consent, unless the mirror sites are maintained by the same organization as the site they actually uploaded their fic to, and therefore if AO3 falls out of favor (which is something I do worry about these days) or goes down, probably so do the mirror sites.

Yeah. I love AO3, but more sites makes for a more resilient system.

I dunno if the number itself should be debated, but I wouldn't mind specialized fic sites again in addition to the larger archives. But if it's the larger archives you're talking about... I think that if one went down, folks would just migrate to another one. Of course, even with multiple sites, nothing guarantees that some fic won't be lost.

I'd be interested in knowing what the alternatives are, and also interested in what people think the different places sort of do well or poorly and whether there's features they like better than the AO3 or miss when they're not on that platform. I mean, assuming we already have people using more than one archive, which seems likely.

Also, I don't think it's any sleight to the AO3, necessarily, to put your stuff somewhere else also. One of its primary purposes was to help people keep their stuff from being lost forever, and you accomplish that better by having your fiction mirrored in more than one place.

Yes, absolutely.

I love AO3, but I would like curated shrines of The Best Fanfic (subjective) for a charscter or series with heavy mod oversight to exist alongside Fun! Friendly! Squeeing! sites for people starting out or who just want to gush. I'd like sites where people will comment so you comment and sites where people will comment specifically to help people improve.

There are so many ways it could go, and communities that could exist, if we let AO3 be an /Archive/ instead of a hub.

Yes, and hopefully with better fancultures surrounding them. AO3's culture has always been toxic, it has always been very them vs us and clicky, AO3's stans are absolutely hateful if they think you are not praising them enough. So, yeah, for the love of god, give us something else instead.

FFN.

Sucks.

I do like it for rereading older fics and to enjoy crossovers better on there - but the people running the site seem to not really care about maintaining it. Hope I'm wrong but it seems to have an uncertain future ahead.

but the people running the site seem to not really care about maintaining it.

Pfft, only for the past 25 years.

Running a site in which users can create content is abso-fucking-lutely horrible to maintain, and administer, and keep legal. so there should be, but there wouldn't be even if the cost was free.

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