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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-28 06:59 pm

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Games thread!

Someone else said it better on the comment secret thread, but...

(Anonymous) 2023-06-28 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
If this is about cdramas, then it's apples and oranges. People aren't complaining about cdrama leads portrayed as child-like as part of their character development arc, they're complaining about a rather sexist, one-note stereotype that plagues female characters in cdramas, period, with not much diversity or range in female characters in general. Context matters.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-28 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I would read/watch that, OP. I'd honestly love a fanfic that gave JC's perspective during the events of MDZS/The Untamed, especially if it had more firsthand accounts of the Sunshot campaign that just gets skimmed over in canon. I'd also like fic that showed us what happened after the story ended because I'd really like him and Wei Wuxian to reconcile, but in a way that's in-character and makes sense for both of them.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-28 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. They're funny. Love em.

I think that's really the level of joke that Tiktok excels at. That's Tiktok's wheelhouse. Sorta basic but still funny.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-28 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, I don't really care about a character that murders his own brother and then spends the next 16 years torturing and murdering anyone who could possible be his brother resurrected.

But you do you!

(Anonymous) 2023-06-28 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh? Do most people hate him? I must hanging around with just cool people I guess.

I agree WWX isn't the most interesting protagonist post-resurrection, but JC occupies the javert role a bit too much for me to want him to be the protagonist instead.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-28 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Which characters do you care about?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-28 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Spot the person who hasn't finished the book!

(Anonymous) 2023-06-28 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
you're right and you should say it

also there's a whole JC loving half of the fandom, come find us

(Anonymous) 2023-06-28 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
1. what do you mean by "redeemed succubi??"

2. is this a dragon, demon, what?

3. why does he need to be redeemed?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-28 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't complain if it was a childish female lead playing zoom zoom with her toy ship. I WOULD complain if the entirety of Luke Skywalker's character was to speak in a high pitched voice and whine and pout and demand his love interests' attention and this was meant to be attractive.

It's what the childishness is supposed to convey. Women are made childish in a specific way that is supposed to be able to let the man be smarter and in charge. Men are made childish to give them character growth into Men (TM).

Re: Someone else said it better on the comment secret thread, but...

(Anonymous) 2023-06-28 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not about c-dramas specifically.

But if you want to narrow it down: complaining about immaturity and a high-pitched voice for only one gender in the artistic tradition that fielded Tang Fan and many other nebbish, immature, unaware-of-personal-boundaries, squeaky little men is... definitely A Take.

And. While gender dynamics are certainly a bit skewed in c-dramas, there's also a solid showing in warriors, generals, doctors, high-powered businesswomen, politically astute court monsters, sect leaders, cops, quiet women who are just so terribly nice, young idiots who are about to meet Personal Growth like getting their ankles stuck in the tracks with a train coming, engineers, e-sport pros...

You're not talking apples and oranges, you're just cherry-picking.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-28 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay? Maybe watch to the end of the story sometime? Character growth happens to girls, too - it's an extremely common plotline.

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