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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-28 06:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #6018 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6018 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-29 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
This entire conversation is a great place to look if you want to see the phenomenon of women willfully and obtusely covering their eyes to misogynistic writing patterns and the female characters they result in, in order to imply other women are misogynists for not liking the way those female characters are written.

You can like things with misogynistic writing. You can even like female characters who are written with misogynistic writing. It's still ridiculous to deny they are misogynistic and blame other women for not liking it just because you aren't bothered by it.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-29 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
Who said the the writing isn't - sometimes - misogynistic?

The double standard that viewers sometimes have is... you know, really coming clear in this convo, though.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-30 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2023-06-30 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
This is both a completely disingenuous reading of that conversation, and condescending in a needless and counterproductive way.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-30 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
It's completely serious. Fandom grasps at straws to blame anyone but the writers for the misogynistic way female characters are written and other fans' distaste for it. But go ahead, keep insisting misogyny is baked into every part of society and every person in some degree or another... except the female characters in things you like and the writers who created them. They grew up in a vacuum, so any misogyny fans find in them is really a product of their own internalized misogyny.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-30 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
+1000

Like, ok. If you think writers are perfect human beings and no modern female character is created with misogynistic characteristics, then enjoy your blinders.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-30 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Some narratives have misogyny in them.

Some narratives don't.

Fandom(and people on this stie) vastly overstates the latter and refuses to believe the former exists at all.