[ SECRET POST #6028 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6028 ⌋

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[Back From the Brink]



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Comments

Re: pretty sure you're just trolling, but

[(Anonymous)]

On the scale of my priorities of things I need to concerned about, real world things like climate change, access to healthcare (including sexual and reproductive healthcare), voting rights, fairness in the justice system, freedom of speech, separation of church and state, etc. are way higher than fandom things, let alone which imaginary characters other fans want to read about. And activism in the real world or online activism about the RL things has a much higher chance of making the changes in the world I would like to see.

As for fandom being activism, how do you mean? Do you mean asking for another season of a favorite show or letting TPTB that there is interest in particular types of properties and seeing a variety of people and relationships depicted in shows and movies? Are you referring to the people demanding that TPTB or authors or showrunners make their pairing canon or make the story go the way the fans want it to, and pester actors with questions about ships and show them explicit fanworks? Or are you referring to creating/consuming fanworks?

Re: pretty sure you're just trolling, but

[(Anonymous)]

Then go burn yourself out fighting for meaningful change instead of wasting your time in fandom at all. I mean it, please do. Every minute you spend in fandom is a minute wasted doing something productive for the world. Don't die on the hill of trying to incorporate serious causes into fandom; that is not the way, and it is a waste of your time. Ignore fandom and go straight for the heart of the matters. Somebody has to, and we're not all as strong-willed as you obviously think you are.

Re: pretty sure you're just trolling, but

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Uh, I'm not the anon who said fandom has always been activism, nor did I say fandom was activism. I was actually agreeing with you that fandom isn't activism by pointing out that if people want to make a change in the world, there are far more effective ways to do it. I guess I phrased things badly or something. Sorry.

Re: pretty sure you're just trolling, but

[(Anonymous)]

SA I was also asking for clarification of what you meant when you said fandom was sometimes activism, but that's water under the bridge. *sigh*

Re: to someone who doesn't sound like they're trolling

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I think you're at cross-purposes with the AYRT because they were responding to someone who made a snide remark about how the only reason anyone thinks fandom hasn't "always been activism" is on account of privilege.

I can't tell you what they meant, but to me, fandom had significant political consequences when people were giving each other the benefit of the doubt and ample room to express themselves. I got online with very narrow ideas about canon being superior to anything some non-author made up and tacked onto an "original" story. I was very young, unwilling to socialize, and judgmental. And there was so much going on in fandom that I'd hardly thought of, imagination and experimentaion and unfettered writing and joking and playing. At first I stayed in my comfort zone, reading practically only film analysis, and no one pressured me or tried to get me to be any different than that. But from being around all this goodness and generosity and all these people being happy together, I got progressively less narrow-minded. Just from being around people who weren't, and yet didn't push anything on me. I was regularly reading writing by women, for one thing, because I really wanted to and then because I'd fallen in love with it. No amount of exhorting me to "not read men all the time" would have made any difference, but there being all these excellent fanfics women wrote, available to me for free, changed that irrevocably. (It took me a while to even understand this, because screen names are so rarely gendered.) And I was reading about intense, passionate, loving relationships between same-sex couples, sparked by people who valued the affinity between characters in fiction and took it seriously in ways that gatekept work in English just Would Not (and my first language was just as censored), for a lot of political reasons that liberals don't believe in any more but that were entirely real and inflexible in for-profit work, then. Gay people were writing this and straight people were writing this, side by side, at a time when it would have been outright job- and reputation-endangering, at the very least, to specify which you were. And I came to much better terms with some of the worst and most traumatic and shameful memories of my life, because all sorts of people were willing to put their pain and confusion and anger and complexity into darkfic and share it with the fucking world. There was no pressure to read particular things, and certainly none to contact the author and admit to them that you'd liked it - or that this was a subject that you already knew more than you wanted to, about, but really appreciated being able to think of in terms of someone else grappling with. I could go on, but what I'm really saying is that when fandom had the fewest pretensions about "being activism" is could be so persuasive and so powerful. It healed so much and transformed so much on a personal level, and sometimes if you open up about this to other people you get their stories, and they can be stunning.

A lot of what I've seen promoted as important for the common good, since, has been a step down from all of that. What people tend to conceptualize as "doing activism" in fandom (when it isn't stuff like the letter writing campaigns that we have to thank for Star Trek being a multi-season thing), is unconvincing, infuriating, presumptuous bullshit in comparison.

Re: to someone who doesn't sound like they're trolling

[(Anonymous)]

This comment should be pinned or something

Re: pretty sure you're just trolling, but

[(Anonymous)]

DA

For what it’s worth, I think you phrased your comment and questions just fine; and I understand what you meant. Misunderstandings just happen sometimes, that’s all it is I think.