[ SECRET POST #6028 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6028 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Kill la Kill]



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[Back From the Brink]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I absolutely love anime, and Kill la Kill is one I really like. But I also like Western animation, American shows and movies included. So I don’t get why one has to be put down to prop the other up.

Like, I’m positive you didn’t mean it this way, and you don’t seem like this type of person, it’s just the phrasing that reminds me: but this comment is reminding me of the “anime is better than stupid American cartoons because they’re darker, more mature, and not ever censored!” that edgy weeb types would say constantly in the 90s-2000s, and even a bit of the early 2010s. And I thought that mindset was often just as limiting, ignorant, and immature than the opposite people with their “anime is so lame, it’s all either silly kid stuff, or violence and weird porn, Western animation is so much better, only Miyazaki movies are good anime!”. And it’s all just not true. Both anime and Western animation have a lot of variety of story and subject matter, and can be range from mature to wholesome. Not to mention not every American animated show is “censored”, and plenty of anime were censored.

Again, I’m not trying to be insulting or compare you directly to the first example of anime-elitists. I’m pretty sure what you meant was that the people who generalize all anime as “problematic” tend to look over American media that’s just as “problematic”, and that the shows these people insist are superior might very well be boring and sanitized. Or just not very good like they think they are. So going against them and not limiting yourself to what they deem unproblematic feels good, and opens up so many more avenues of entertainment. So I’m not saying you yourself seem like the “anime is just always better” crowd, just that the phrasing you used reminded me of those people, even though I’m positive you meant something different. I know I’ve repeated that several times, I’m just trying to make what I’m trying to say clear, and try to let you know that I’m not trying to be rude.

[(Anonymous)]

All of this.

And yeah, anime gets censored a lot for TV. Just like YA books compared to movies for the same age group, manga for kids and teens can get away with a lot more than the anime adaptations. Like the Attack on Titan anime is gory enough already, but the manga is much worse. Sometimes a DVD release is more explicit (which isn't always censorship, but the opposite - the TV version is the original and the DVDs crank up the edginess/sexiness as a bonus. Look up the infamous Code Geass table-kun scene for an example, if you're not easily squicked) but not always.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

That's fair. And no, I didn't mean it like that, exactly. But I really wasn't happy as a kid taking stock of what was considered "appropriate for children" in the US. Moralizing and black-and-white thinking were very prevalent and it made me feel like the people telling these stories thought I was too stupid to know that characters did things for reasons and made sense to themselves and often seemed sympathetic to me even if they managed to antagonize everyone else in the story. And anime did the work with long-term alignment shifts and character development and "people can change as they learn things and feel different" that I never saw American cartoons bother with. And yeah, bloody violence was there and death was there, but the American notion that I didn't already KNOW about these things, or needed to have them hidden from me for some reason, was just obnoxious. I felt very disrespected by American media. Very talked-down-to. And a lot of the storytelling wasn't storytelling. It was preaching. I knew the difference and it mattered to me.

It's not that I think anime will look "better" if I criticize American media. It's just that I have very little tolerance for hearing people complain that the ways anime differs from American cartoons are bad.

I've got no quarrel with anyone for liking both or preferring what I don't like. I do have a problem with the argument that American cartoons are more virtuous, and especially with the argument that people (of any age) ought to be limited to them, for their own good.