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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-14 05:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #6034 ]


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Re: Do you speak more than one language?

(Anonymous) 2023-07-15 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
as someone who speaks just enough Japanese to easily get around the country as a tourist, is there a point where it becomes comfortable to just speak and understand, vs reading or filling out forms? I also have memory problems due to an autoimmune disease so straight up memorizing kanji is right out, it's a crapshoot what will stick vs what my brain can't grasp, but speaking feels more comfortable so long as I get my participles right. Still working on ni versus de and wa versus ga but the spirit is there and the verbs are right.

Re: Do you speak more than one language?

(Anonymous) 2023-07-15 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

>>is there a point where it becomes comfortable to just speak and understand, vs reading or filling out forms?
>>memorizing kanji is right out

Unfortunately memorizing kanji is how you do it... BUT you could always do it my way: playing visual novels and reading Japanese fanfiction (through pixiv) and raw doujinshi. That is how I learned most of the difficult kanji. You just read and read and read and put the kanji in context. It's how I learned English, too. Videogames and fanfiction!
Read stuff out of you comfort zone, write the stuff you don't understand down, without immediately search the meaning and trying to understand it through context first. Then, after finishing reading, search and write the kana and meaning. Put a little sentence or write about the scene you were reading about, to put some context.
Then the next day or week re-try to read the same stuff, if you can (with games it's difficult, but a lot of words repeats themselves) and see if it sticks.
Then repeat, and repeat... learning languages is a very long and tedious process. You have to find the fun in it. Do it with everything you like. Music and lyrics are good, too.
if you are more interested in business Japanese, then it's better to buy a book about business. Even a book aimed to young Japanese people! There are usually a lot of examples and you will see what real Japanese people see when they live in Japan.

Having said this, I have to be transparent: back when I was in university and I didn't have a fucked up spine, I spent at least a couple of hours every day practising writing kanji (I like writing in Japanese a lot) while having a TV show in background (usually SPN or Merlin lol it was a while ago), so I memorized kanji through repetition and muscle memory.
I also went to school and work there, so when I first went to Japan I had difficulties with paperwork myself, but then I continue to see the same stuff and it just clicked. Sometimes I forget that really specific kanji of that specific document, but usually it's always the same stuff. After a while you remember it and if you don't, you search it or ask someone else.

Writing/Drawing is how I memorize stuff + I have to put them in context. Only repeating them through stuff like anki doesn't nothing to me.

>> Still working on ni versus de and wa versus ga
The correct use of wa vs ga is difficult to Japanese people, too. Don't sweat it too much. As long as people understand you, you're fine. I speak very quickly and often do small grammatical errors. Nobody gives a shit.
Verbs are way more important, so concentrate more on that! Good luck :)