[ SECRET POST #6036 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6036 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

You can't have your cake and eat it to. If PIV is considered het, then you clearly don't see one (or both) of the characters as trans. END OF STORY.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not about what anyone sees the characters as. It's about what kind of sex people do or don't want to read. If I backbutton out of choking scenes, what the people doing the choking call it or identify as is not relevant to my not wanting to see it. Which is also exactly what a number of trans people have been saying in the comments - they want control over whether PiV is shoved in their face or not when they read fic.

[(Anonymous)]

haven’t seen many a fic that involves choking that aint tagged.

Thing is, tho, if you’re reading trans couple fic, odds are, the sex scenes aren’t gonna be so… trans-friendly, as it were. I think it’s something to be expected, especially if the two involved are the same gender, with wholly different sexual organs.

don’t get me wrong. I think that if you’re going in to read m/m, f/f, you’re going to expect same/same. But when it comes to queer-lit, the sexual bit is always up in the air. Part of that is remembering that t/t may mean that there is a p&v involved. Can you write it in a way where PiV is skipped over? Sure. However, the reality is: the author (who is probably not as old as we’d like) may truly not know how to write that in a way that isn’t… Well. Hetero. Because despite breaking gender norms and expectations, most people still view P&V as being het; even if unintentional.

Sad but true; you have to cntl+f for any squicky words/phrases that you know are gonna be a problem for you. (god knows I have to, no matter what a pain in the dick it is).

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I agree, and I think AYRT was wrong to direct their comment at the OP. There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting stuff to be tagged so you can avoid it or read it for any reason.

But also, there was absolutely someone ITT who was affirmatively saying that all PIV fic is het even if trans characters are involved. It wasn't OP saying that AFAIK but it was an opinion being expressed.