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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-16 02:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #6036 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6036 ⌋

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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2023-07-17 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Just going to throw in that the "Dollie" thing to me just made me all the more sure Phoenix is gay and just hadn't recognized it yet and may even have been in denial.

I mean, my foremost example: the thing where someone suggests she excused herself to use the restroom, and he's like "My pretty Dollie doesn't poop!" Does this sound like an actual relationship? Or just desperately clinging to a fantasy? If he doesn't want to imagine girls having normal bodily functions, does it sound like he wants to have sex with her? ("She'd get dirty!")

His entire treatment of her came off to me like "look everyone I am with a *girl* and dating a *girl* and in love with a *girl* and everything is perfect and pristine and there is definitely nothing unusual about me at all, I am in a very normal and fulfilling relationship with a *girly girl who wears pink lace*!"

(And yes, years later it was probably a relief to find out that it wasn't that girl who had made an attempt on his life, and she actually had been fond of him. Also: Of course he always believed in her. Phoenix's WHOLE THING, at least pre-AJ-era, is trusting his gut and believing in people despite all evidence (literally!) that he probably shouldn't.)
Edited 2023-07-17 17:25 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for stating the obvious but necessary!

(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I could see this if AA were a more realistic series about realistic people, but I don't think the writers understand common closeted behavior with that type of nuance. It is exactly what it looks like, a guy completely infatuated with a girl and it's played up to the nth degree for comedy because AA does that with everything.

I'm not the OP, I ship Narumitsu and I see Phoenix as bi. I think your take is interesting as an alternate interpretation of the text, it's just clearly not what was intended.
pantswarrior: Phoenix's stupid hat covers up the fact that he still has lawyerbrains. (pw)

[personal profile] pantswarrior 2023-07-17 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally fair. I also am guessing that's not what they intended, honestly, but given the way he's so fixated on Miles throughout the rest of the series I was like "...yeah, I'm not sure I buy this" and ran with it. XD

At any rate, alternate interpretations are fine by me! Honestly don't hate OP's headcanons on their own either. It's just that when anyone gets judgy over headcanons and saying that theirs is ACTUALLY canon that I start to think it's not worth having discussions...

(Actually kinda missed AA discussions. There's so much absurdity to play with in these games...)

(Anonymous) 2023-07-17 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
DA - I do think it was intended for him to come across as a silly guy in a pink sweater with a "puppy love" and very immature about it back then. Not that it was intended for us to read that as "oh, he is closeted" but rather "oh he is immature" and with immaturity comes lack of self-awareness and such.