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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-21 05:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #6041 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6041 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[The Adventures of Jonny Quest]



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09. [WARNING for discussion of underage/grooming]

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-22 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
Removing yourself from a story isn't fetishizing the people in it, wtf? There is lots of text on women liking gay romance because it removes them from the story. You're the one reading that as "fetishizing." There is almost zero text that women like gay romance because they can fetishize it. All the evidence of that is secondhand accounts of people (homophobic concern-troll men and "Pick me, I'm not obsessed with gay sex like other fangirls" women) listening to women explain why they like gay romance and those people saying "this is fetishization," when it isn't.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-22 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
+1000

(Anonymous) 2023-07-22 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
You say that like wanting to remove yourself from the story or having a narrative kink is a bad thing. Something you would be ashamed of if you, personally, did that.

Chill, dude. It's just a thing.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-22 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
The anon who started this subthread does portray it as a bad thing, not ayrt.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-22 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Don't forget misogynistic gay men themselves.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-22 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

You know, I've never gotten this crap from a gay man. Not once. It's always insecure straight guys who get all worked up over the fact that women seem to be attracted to something in fantasy that they can't see themselves willingly being a part of. It's a kind of sex that is not "getting them the girl" and not involving girls, and yet paradoxically appealing to so many girls, and it drives them kinda nuts. But I've never seen the existence of slash bother actual gay men at all.

Anon that AYRT was replying to

(Anonymous) 2023-07-23 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I absolutely did forget to mention misogynistic gay men, and you're very lucky you've never gotten shit from one. So many gay men out there telling women not to write m/m because "You're fetishizing me." Like straight men, they cannot imagine anything that women do is not about them at all, so they think the men being written about in the fic represent Gay Men, collectively, i.e. themselves, and that because women are writing and finding the men in the fic hot, women find them hot and that's uncomfy for them because most men think anyone they wouldn't fuck being attracted to them is gross.

SA

(Anonymous) 2023-07-23 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
And to give ahahaha, credit, where it's due, I've run into bi men who get like this too.