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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-22 05:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #6042 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6042 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-22 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
.......... fanfiction.net??????? I never did LJ but oh boy commenting on ff.net was just to be expected

(Anonymous) 2023-07-22 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I was actually curious about the math on this so I just went to AO3 and the tag for fic crossposted on ffnet. Found a fic that has 7766 comments on AO3. Exact same fic has 1388 reviews on ffnet.

Since ffnet doesn't have a hit count, and those aren't particularly reliable anyway, we can look at the bookmark/fave count. 7748 for AO3 and 3052 for ffnet.

So we have 7766 comments and 7748 bookmarks on AO3 vs 1388 comments and 3052 bookmarks on ffnet. This is a ratio of 1.002 comments per bookmark for AO3 vs 0.4558 for ffnet. So this fic was over twice as likely to get a comment on AO3 as on ffnet per bookmark.

Granted, it's just one fic (it would be a massive undertaking to do a statistical analysis on a site by site basis) and there's no way to see if such a thing has changed over time without having to dig for data, and ain't nobody got time for that.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-23 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhh, I think this is hugely influenced by fandom and when it was posted. These days, I think AO3 is the more frequented place for reading fic, so the numbers will be influenced by that. And fandom also plays a huge role - I used to crosspost on both for a while and fics in anime fandoms would consistently get more comments on ffn than on AO3. Popular Western media fandoms (stuff like MCU ca. 2012-2014) got more comments on AO3. But I think that was mostly influenced by the fact that AO3 was already established in those fandoms due to BNFs posting there, whereas anime fandoms mostly didn't exist on AO3.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-23 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
It really depends on the fic! I find my weirder shit gets more reviews on ffnet even today than it does on AO3, whereas my fluff is adored by AO3 but goes mostly unrecognized on ffnet.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-23 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
ehhhh I don't think that's a good measurement to compare since I strongly believe that fan bases on different sites differ greatly (ie: there may be more Fandom A fics on AO3 than on FFnet because more people post there, whereas Fandom B might have a bigger fanbase on FFnet because its older and might still have people posting on it - which is another factor since ffnet has gone down in quality by comparison to AO3, so people might be more reluctant to use it).

(Anonymous) 2023-07-23 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Responding to all the comments above in order:
1) This was in my caveats at the end.
2) This was in my caveats at the end.
3) This is why I went for ratios and not total numbers. The gross number of comments doesn't matter.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-23 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT
I never saw that with FF.net so hadn’t considered it tbh. I was only thinking about LJ vs specific fandom archives, the old mailing lists and Angelfire circles. LJ was the only place I saw a large number of readers commenting if they didn’t have a personal connection to the author. And even on the pit it was like that but I was only ever there for a short while for one fandom after its archive disappeared.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-23 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
... uh, no? I rarely got many comments on the stuff I posted on FF.net, even in the popular fandoms.