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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-25 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #6045 ]


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Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I see in US shows and commercials people saying their phone number is [bunch of numbers] followed by an actual word. How does this actually work, I don't understand it. Can someone explain how, to pick an example from Scrubs, 555-"Call Turk" translates into a viable phone number? Please, like I am five?
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Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

[personal profile] philstar22 2023-07-25 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
letters translate to numbers. 1 is a,b,c. 2 is d,e,f. 3 is g,h,i. And so on.

I don't think Call Turk could be one, though. CAL TUrk could be. 114-7764.
Edited 2023-07-25 23:17 (UTC)

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
what [personal profile] philstar22 said--i've linked a pic as well so you can see.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-standard-12-key-telephone-keypad-character-layout-follows-the-ITU-E161-standard-8_fig1_221518150

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
A cellphone keypad looks like this:

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Shumin-Zhai/publication/221518150/figure/fig1/AS:305488823635968@1449845619238/The-standard-12-key-telephone-keypad-character-layout-follows-the-ITU-E161-standard-8.png

So "Food" would be 3663. "CALL TURK" would be 2255 8875. But there's another layer to the Scrubs joke, because American phone numbers only have 7 digits (not 8), so the number isn't actually CALL TURK, it's CALL TUR. Or Cal Turk. Who sells peace of mind, but only to white people.

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
This made me laugh because my first thought was, "Someone wasn't around when you had to text using a numeric keypad."

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
... the whole keypad thing with letters AND numbers predates texting by a LOT.

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I am aware, but if they weren't here for number-texting, they likely weren't here before that either... being how time is linear and all.

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
That's also assuming it's an age thing and not a non-American vs. American thing, like it says in the subject.

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair. The comments below had me wondering if it really is a rare thing outside of romanized-language countries or even just English (as a major language) countries.

I would imagine it wouldn't uh... "translate" well if you'll pardon the pun lol, so some other languages.

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a little of both, age and location. Apparently not all European countries had the alphanumeric keypad after the 60s, but it came back eventually with mobile phones and presumably, texting.

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-26 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I was in Japan in 2000 and the cellphones I saw there had the Japanese equivalent of an alphanumeric keypad, just with Japanese characters, so it's definitely not an English-language-only thing.

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhh is it weird that as a non-American I never heard of that either and I surely had to text using a numeric keypad?

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-26 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Hm. I am in my late 30s. I used rotary phone (it had letters on it). I think all phones I used through the years had letters on them. But my country never used text for a phone number outside American ads on cabel TV.

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-26 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
No, this just means "nobody outside the US uses words as stand-in for phone numbers in ads".

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Having letters on the phone number pad is only an American thing??

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
right? a real TiL moment.

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It isn't. This person is confused.

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Genuine question, would it really be common outside of non-romanized language countries? Like I am wondering if Japanese telephone keypads would have katakana on them or just numbers.

You have me thinking too deeply about this now lol.

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Now I got curious, too. Apparently they have katakana ending in -a for some reason. I have no idea why.

https://www.xadara.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/japanese-phone-closeup.jpg

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Someone who lives/has lived in Japan, explain this right now, lol!

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Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
This isn't a US thing. This is a 'anywhere with phone pads' thing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_keypad

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-25 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
"The use of alphanumeric codes for exchanges was abandoned in Europe when international direct dialing was introduced in the 1960s, because, for example, dialing VIC 8900 on a Danish telephone would result in a different number to dialling it on a British telephone. At the same time letters were no longer placed on the dials of new telephones.

Letters did not re-appear on phones in Europe until the introduction of mobile phones, and the layout followed the new international standard ITU E.161/ISO 9995-8."

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-27 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
letters still existed on british phones, but for practical purposes they were ignored and certainly not used for promotional words

one place where their legacy lingers is landline area codes; kings lynn is 01553, or KL3, for instance, but almost nobody makes that connection

(NE2, 01632, is a redundant code for newcastle that's now used as the uk version of the us 555)

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-26 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
Having words in place of a phone number is 100% an American thing. Doesn't matter that we definitely know about letters on keypads, words as a stand-in for the actual number are just not used outside the US as far as I've seen.

Re: Explain American things to a non American thread.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-26 11:27 am (UTC)(link)
It's probably not as common as in the US, but it's definitely used in my country (Australia).