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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-29 03:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #6049 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6049 ⌋

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-07-30 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
hmm, i think this has more to do with how writers write traumatized or non-emotional characters and how audiences read them. i think it is gendered but complicatedly. men do absolutely get this criticism, but it tends to happen when that's the natural state of actor (a la Neo and Keanu) but maybe not the natural state of the writing, whereas for women I think the criticism comes when it's either the writing or the natural style of the actor (a la Katniss, who people criticized as a flat character even in the books). Although I will say that in writing I think it is significantly less gendered because unfortunately it seems like that's a function of POV characters where they are flatter than the people they observe.

i also would not call jyn gnc, especially not internally to the movie wherein all female rebellion fighters are dressed and act similarly, nor externally where we expect female fighters to be dressed and to act similarly to male ones.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-30 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're absolutely right in that it's more of an issue of people not liking characters who have realistic responses to trauma than a gender thing, because I've seen loads of male characters get flak for exactly that as well. Someone up above mentioned Shinji from Evangelion and that's a perfect example of a traumatized male character being disliked for being affected by what he went through. I've also seen a lot of criticism of Noctis from FFXV for being "flat" even though that's also the result of having experienced trauma as a child.