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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-08-08 03:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #6058 + 6059 ]


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(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry to spam you, but the more I read this review, the more I'm annoying by it.

So this person is yet another woman who thinks that because she's never had good sex that involved intercourse, no other woman ever has, either. "Points off for the implication that Cassian's penis is better at pleasuring Nesta than her own hand is." Um, yes? Yes, my husband's penis is better at pleasuring me than my own hand. Do I have to give up my Woman Card now, because I'm one of the forty percent (that's not actually that small a number!) who can, in fact, orgasm from PIV alone? Do I have to pretend that I hate it? Do I have to pretend, now, that I don't like giving oral, or that I don't like the occasional rough sex? What about all the other women who like these things, who are in fact the audience for the kind of sex scenes that apparently populate this book? I suppose we must all have internalized misogyny. Our desires are Wrong and Bad, and so is the way in which we experience and express our sexuality.

I want to tell her that it does not make her enlightened, or feminist, to have had such bad sex that she prefers her hand. It might mean that she's unlucky; it might, dare I say, even mean that instead of approaching sex with a sense of curiosity and fun, she's approaching it with an overly critical, pessimistic mindset that guarantees she'll have a bad time (yes, this is in fact a thing that people do). It doesn't mean that she has some kind of unique insight about The Right Kind of Sex for women to want.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
...she's saying that that's the ONLY kind of sex portrayed in the book as Superior and Meaningful.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

She very clearly makes the claim that the problem is that this is not the kind of sex that's good for women in real life.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
The claim is that the other kinds of sex are never put on a pedestal the way PIV is. I promise that mindblowing PIV sex is not going anywhere in romance novels, and I agree that, as you said, the primary audience for this series probably fucking loves it, but man does it get old and obnoxious to keep reading about throbbing cock in a series that supposedly centers female characters the way this series claims to.

But like, clearly you disagree with the reviewer, and clearly they disagree with you, so you being mad about it doesn't change their opinion or anyone else's, just like theirs clearly doesn't change yours. Calm down.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I imagine the intended audience views it as centering female characters, because this is their particular fantasy. The women who are reading and enjoying it want it to be about throbbing cock - throbbing cock that's aimed at a remarkable woman, with whom the man is totally, irresistibly taken.

I could as well tell you to calm down with how mad you seem to be at the fact that books that aren't targeted at you aren't targeted at you.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
DA - They seem perfectly calm, and you look like a real ass for trotting out that condescending bullshit towards someone who was being perfectly civil and reasonable.
queenslayerbee: Isabelle Adjany as Lucy Harker in 1979's "Nosferatu the Vampire". She's surrounded by darkness, looking over her shoulder while she wears a white nightgown and a cross as a necklace. A hand with long nails like a claw is reaching for her neck from the darkness behind her. (Default)

[personal profile] queenslayerbee 2023-08-09 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
You're a joke of a person. I hope your husband gets erectile disfunción soon tbh.

DA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
Making a mental note to skip reading your comments from now on.
queenslayerbee: Isabelle Adjany as Lucy Harker in 1979's "Nosferatu the Vampire". She's surrounded by darkness, looking over her shoulder while she wears a white nightgown and a cross as a necklace. A hand with long nails like a claw is reaching for her neck from the darkness behind her. (Default)

Re: DA

[personal profile] queenslayerbee 2023-08-09 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
Sure. The problem is me, not the person making incredible insulting, hurtful assumptions & commentary about a stranger's sex life. Of course since they're anonymous it's not like you can do the same with them lol.

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
"Hurtful commentary about a stranger's sex life," you say as you wish for their husband to get ED.
queenslayerbee: Isabelle Adjany as Lucy Harker in 1979's "Nosferatu the Vampire". She's surrounded by darkness, looking over her shoulder while she wears a white nightgown and a cross as a necklace. A hand with long nails like a claw is reaching for her neck from the darkness behind her. (Default)

Re: DA

[personal profile] queenslayerbee 2023-08-09 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
When you start rambling about your husband's magical cock to strangers you're inviting them to comment on your sex life sns (not to mention I hardly think what I said could be constructed as "hurtful", let alone in the same way). And since this is what the asshole cares about so much to trash other women she doesn't know anything about, yeah, I'm uselessly wishing a little sexual un-gratifiction upon her. The nerve.
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(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
DDA

But nothing they said was directed at you personally, that I can see.

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure. The problem is me,

NA - You are the one being unduly hostile here, yes.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
God I hate het women lmfao. Gross. Absolutely no one wanted to hear about your husband's perfect magic penis.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
At least she's not going into loving detail about the joys of eating pussy to explain why trans women shouldn't be considered women.

https://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/2502851.html?thread=1074681539#cmt1074681539

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
DA but... why the hell do you keep links to two year old comment threads?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
Odds are good you'll be married to a dude by your 30s. It's what happens to most performatively queer women.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
What the fuck

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
All but one of the "lesbians" I knew in college, who went on and on about how lame the straights are, is now married to a man.

It was all just a song and dance, appropriating queerness to seem cool.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Ms. I Hate Het Women up there is a nasty piece of shit.

But wow, you're worse.

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Married to a woman, ten year anniversary coming up. Nice try tho, asshole.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
My condolences to your wife.

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 11:06 am (UTC)(link)
No one but you is obsessed with your husbands magical amazing supercock.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 11:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yes? That's... generally how monogamy works? What kind of sick burn do you think this is?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-09 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
NA - It's not always a joy to hear about how compatible with most het men's preferences another woman's sexual pleasure is, like congrats for picking one of the lucky numbers in the lotto I guess; can't relate.

But your comment was perfectly relevant to the conversation, and responding as though it wasn't is clearly arguing in bad faith. The AYRT is being trollish with their responses ITT.

Though I will say that I think it's probably inaccurate to assume smut which paints PIV as a revelatory sexual experience is targeted primarily at women who find PIV sex fantastic IRL. I think it's targeted just as much at women who don't experience PIV sex that way IRL. It's a fantasy, after all.