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⌈ Secret Post #6082 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Frankly I find it more insulting when people think mental illness is an insult.
No one said it was an insult, only that it’s an insult to call ADHD a mental illness. Because it isn’t. And unlike your depression and anxiety, there isn’t a cure.

[philstar22]

It is a kind of illness, though. Same as any other disability. And while there isn't a cure at the moment, if there was, it wouldn't be bad to treat it. And, for the record, there really isn't a cure for depression or anxiety either. Treatment is about living with them. Same as there are medicines that can help you live with ADHD or other similar disabilities. So it is an apt comparison.

[(Anonymous)]

ADHD is not an illness. It isn’t even like an illness. And it isn’t a mental illness. That’s it. That’s all. That’s the only point of the comment you originally replied to. And the distinction is important because there are people like you who make inaccurate and often inappropriate assumptions based on what you know about mental illness.

[philstar22]

I'm sorry. Maybe I don't completely understand. Is it not a disability?

[(Anonymous)]

Just stop calling it an illness. And especially don’t call it a mental illness. Not because mental illness is inherently bad like you assumed, but because they are two very different things. Different causes, different treatments, different everything. And the experiences and preconceptions surrounding mental illness do not apply to ADHD or any other neurological disorders.

[philstar22]

Okay, sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

It’s ok and I’m also sorry for not clearly expressing that my objection isn’t because I think mental illness is inherently bad.

You’re right that it is a disability and that it’s viewed almost exactly the same as mental illness. Which is to say that even though people may need and qualify for special accommodation, it rarely happens. Part of that is the stigma of mental illness, part of it with ADHD and dyslexia and autism is that a lot of people truly believe it’s a temporary condition that can be overcome if the person wasn’t lazy, others believe it’s temporary and the right medication will cure it.

[philstar22]

It sucks that people are so terrible. Don't have ADHD (I think), but I do have learning disabilities, and it took forever to actually get them taken seriously (that and the mental illness) because I was told I was just lazy and just had to work harder and put in more effort.

And honestly, it happens with chronic illness a lot too. People are just quick to judge and generally awful.

[(Anonymous)]

People really are judgey and awful :(

I expend so much more energy for everyday tasks than my family and it’s really disheartening. Luckily my partner is understanding and we work together on a lot of things. I can’t be trusted to empty the dishwasher because I will discover about an hour’s worth of tasks that need to be done in preparation for emptying the dishwasher. And whatever I was doing before will be forgotten, usually forever. So my partner just does it after work every day, even if we ran it the evening before. Little things like that have really helped me as an adult. I wouldn’t go back and relive my childhood for all the money in the world.

[(Anonymous)]

>implying depression and anxiety have cures

I hope you slam your finger in a car door.

[(Anonymous)]

News flash: the majority of cases of depression and anxiety are curable. Chronic depression is not depression. Chronic anxiety is not anxiety.

Huh, it’s almost like word choice matters…

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Chronic depression is not depression. Chronic anxiety is not anxiety.

Huh, it’s almost like word choice matters…

Irony alert. Chronic Anxiety IS anxiety. It's why it has anxiety in the name. I'm not going to say "my chronic anxiety" every time I talk about my INCURABLE MENTAL ILLNESS. I'm just going to say anxiety... And no, anxiety is not curable. (yet, hopefully)

[(Anonymous)]

Um, anxiety and depression are curable. Psychotherapy, medication, and cognitive therapy are all proven treatments that often eliminate anxiety and depression.

I’m sorry you’re struggling nonnie and I won’t wish harm to you like you have to others but your experience isn’t the be all end all. The majority of patients who seek treatment for anxiety or depression are cured within 12 months.

[(Anonymous)]

Psychotherapy, medication, and cognitive therapy are TREATMENTS. They are not cures. Anxiety is not curable. It is treatable. I have been suffering from anxiety almost my entire life, so for people to claim that it's "curable" is just a slap in the face.

"Though anxiety doesn’t have a cure, there are many good options for treatment that can get your symptoms under control."
https://www.goodrx.com/conditions/generalized-anxiety-disorder/cure

"The short answer to, “Can anxiety be cured?” is no, but only in the sense that someone cannot permanently guarantee they will never have another anxiety or panic attack. With proper treatment, they can greatly reduce their symptoms. They may even feel as though they are cured if enough time passes without a resurgence of their symptoms. However, the reality remains that “cure” would be a misleading term to use."
https://www.springbrookhospital.org/can-anxiety-be-cured/

"Anxiety disorder is not curable. It is manageable."
https://zoihospitals.com/is-anxiety-disorder-curable/

"Anxiety cannot be cured, but it can be controlled and managed to a point that you can go back to a premorbid level of functioning. It requires the right treatment plan."
https://www.cadabamshospitals.com/severe-anxiety-treatments-are-effective/

"Anxiety disorders, like most mental disorders, are not curable. They are highly treatable, however, and respond well to two main types of treatment; medication and psychotherapy."
https://archstonerecovery.com/mental-health-treatment-fl/anxiety-treatment-fl/

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, you’re right. It can’t be cured, only treated to the point that it goes away forever.

ADHD isn’t like that. It can be treated and managed but only to limited effect. Most of that just results in masking. And it will never go away.

[(Anonymous)]

only treated to the point that it goes away forever.

No. It does not go away. It gets managed. You don't seem to understand what words mean.

[(Anonymous)]

Anxiety and ADHD are different things, but nonny wtf
-anxiety can't be cured just treated
-ADHD I different! It can't be cured only treated

???

[(Anonymous)]

I take medicine for my anxiety every day in order to ensure that I may only have an anxiety attack that makes me think I'm going to die from lack of oxygen to my brain every few months instead of a few times a week. So sure, if every few months is forever then yes, my anxiety is gone forever, you're right, congratulations.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Yay, links! You are wonderful, anon!

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

You're welcome! I really wish we had classes on various mental conditions, because people like anon up there seem to think that they're easily correctable and it ends up with moral judgement and blaming people for their own illness. It's a heavy burden on top of being ill all the time.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

For that last sentence, are you sure you're not thinking of remission?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430847/#:~:text=Complete%20remission%20is%20not%20common,patients%20with%20depression%20is%20poor.

[(Anonymous)]

But there's a significant difference between chronic anxiety versus acute or situational anxiety. That's the whole point. CHRONIC anxiety can't be cured, only managed. Acute/situational anxiety CAN in fact be cured once the situation that's causing the anxiety is resolved.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Situational anxiety is an emotion. It's not a condition. It's a healthy biological response to a situation in the environment. It doesn't have a "cure" because there's nothing that needs curing. That's like saying there's a cure for feeling annoyed.

There's a difference between "I feel anxiety right now/for this situation" and "I HAVE anxiety". HAVING anxiety is not a response to a situation in the environment.

[(Anonymous)]

It can absolutely be a condition when it's a disporportionate response to the situation at hand. There's reasonable anxiety over a situation and then there's "this is in no way proportional to the actual situation" anxiety. In a case like that, people often need professional help in dealing with the anxiety, so it's more than just "having an emotion." But once they DO address it and the situation that caused it in the first place, it can in fact be cured and never recur. That doesn't somehow make it any less anxiety than chronic anxiety.

[(Anonymous)]

If you continually have a disproportionate response to the situation at hand... congrats, that's a mental illness and is in fact "having anxiety" and needs treatment. You will ALWAYS have that disproportionate response, BUT, and here's the crucial part, you can learn how to manage it and people will THINK you're cured. But you're not. You're doing a shit ton of work on the inside of your head (and possibly medications) to manage your brain telling you that you're going to die when the phone rings. You just don't show it anymore. It's why a common symptom of anxiety is fatigue. Doesn't mean it isn't still there. Because.... anxiety (the mental illness) isn't curable.

There is no judgement value between anxiety (the emotion) and anxiety (the mental illness). One is no less "anxiety" than the other. It becomes a mental illness when you can't control when/how you become anxious and it effects your quality of life. If your anxiety is from environmental factors, it's not the anxiety effecting your quality of life - it's the thing making you anxious. If your anxiety is from your brain misfiring, well, we don't know why it does that and we don't know how to fix it. This is why anxiety (the mental illness) has no cure (yet). There is no way to "resolve the situation causing anxiety" because when you have anxiety (the mental illness) there IS NO SITUATION CAUSING IT. That's what makes it a mental illness.

We don't say that people who turn doorknobs twelve times when opening a door are OCD because of the action they're taking, and therefore people who wash their hands until they bleed AREN'T OCD - because it's not the ACT that is the problem. They're both OCD because of the loss of control over one's self. It's not the emotion you're feeling, or the specific act you're compelled to do - it's the loss of control over yourself. Feeling emotions in response to stimulus is normal. Feeling emotions randomly with no precipitating cause is not.