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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-09-24 03:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #6106 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6106 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-09-24 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
hmm, apparently I'm going to continue being odd man out in hating the LA and being a lifelong manga/anime fan and Sanji-lover. time to take my hat and leave fandom, I guess.

I don't think anyone is wrong for not liking that trope, and not wanting even an ounce of it in their orbit. fair. clearly, no amount of seeing Sanji as a fully fleshed-out character with nuance and trauma and legit times where he supercedes his bullshit is going to convice anyone who is already certain that he's just a pervert-trope and nothing else. But by god are all yall missing a shitload of context because hurr hurr boobs. Whatever. Not a hill I'm going to die on, I'm literally going to put my hat on like Grandpa Simpson and leave the brothel now.

(Anonymous) 2023-09-24 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
He tries to sneak into bathing rooms to peep on naked women. Kind of more that "hurr hurr boos".

(Anonymous) 2023-09-24 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think anyone's saying he's "just" the pervert-trope, but rather that the annoying and outdated pervert trope is hard to put up with, and makes people less likely to get to the parts you're talking about, where Sanji's character shines. As someone with several faves who fell into that category, I feel that.

However, I'm not gonna complain when an adaptation removes that shitty part and keeps the rest, allowing more people to see the parts I love.

(Anonymous) 2023-09-25 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
my god you sound pathetic.

(Anonymous) 2023-09-25 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, please. Sanji is a very beloved character in the fandom and the majority of people who hate the pervert trope very much love Sanji despite him being a pervert. Even the people who really dislike Sanji after the timeskip typically fall back in love with him during While Cake.

This "woe is me" nonsense is ridiculous.

(Anonymous) 2023-09-25 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with your approach, if a character I love has a tropey gag that I hate shoved onto them because anime gonna anime, then I just pretend that part of their personality doesn't exist or at least isn't diegetic (eg "omg she has pictures of him covering every inch of her room, that's creepy stalker behavior and he should get a restraining order" = me going "lol nah the pictures are only there in her imagination and it's just a metaphor for how much she likes him") because they're not real people hurting anyone real. But also not everyone can turn off parts of characterization like that, and if it becomes to frequent with the character, even I can't do it anymore.