[ SECRET POST #6107 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6107 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's very easy to have a 0% shipbaited score: simply withhold predictions and always be skeptical that anything will be canon. Done, 100% never baited, pat yourself on the back.

This would be more impressive if you can list and somehow prove 1) non-explicit queer ships in 2) non-explicitly queer media that 3) you DID predict would happen that happened, but you can't exactly do that anon.

As-is this secret says nothing much besides that OP seems to think that queerbaiting means "will they or won't they, now with 100% more gays!" and doesn't realize they aren't the same thing.

[(Anonymous)]

A+ reading comprehension. You thought Johnlock was going to be a thing for real, didn't you?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

No, they just seem aware that queerbaiting is not about ships? Plenty of it is "is this character queer representation or not" even if ships aren't in the picture and writers being like weeeell maaaaaybe who knows???

[(Anonymous)]

When has this happened? Because I can think of many more instances of a fandom going ‘this is totally meant to be canon/this character is meant to be queer’ only for the creators to explicitly state this isn’t the case and never will be, but the fandom ignores it and carries on deluding themselves, only to get act betrayed when it doesn’t happen just like the creators said it wouldn’t.

[(Anonymous)]

That would not be an example of queerbaiting, then?

Queerbaiting by definition is when the creators actively bait or hedge, not when they outright state it isn't true

[(Anonymous)]

This. It's also not queerbaiting if they leave it open or ambiguous so the characters could conceivably be interpreted as being queer, either. Queerbaiting is when the creators deliberately hint toward a character/characters being queer when they never intend for that to be an actual possibility and know all along that the character in question is going to wind up being straight.

[(Anonymous)]

If you want a concrete example, Rizzoli and Isles where the writers/cast knew they were and would end up straight but played up the lesbian subtext for the viewership numbers.

[(Anonymous)]

Not a shipper, not talking about any particular ships.

A+ reading comprehension right back at you.

[(Anonymous)]

No it’s very easy to tell, you’re just dumb.

[(Anonymous)]

LOL I'm not even a shipper, there's nothing for me to tell. But I'm pretty sure that most people were sure that Cas>Dean wasn't going to be on screen canon and Eve/Villanelle weren't going to be on screen canon, not for real (that's the whole reason they were complaining after all), and then what do you know.

Writers can change things whenever they want. The only way to have a 100% success rate is to not play, or ignore all the times they did that.

[(Anonymous)]

Using Eve/Villanelle is especially funny as they were a romance that was set up from season one, it wasn’t subtle and was very clearly heading there, you actually have to be stupid to think there was a chance it wouldn’t.

Dean/Cas is one sided canon, sort of, so you’re not winning any points there either. So my point of you being dumb stands.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. In the Dean/Cas example Dean was never going to as invested in Cas as Cas was with him. With Eve/Villanelle both women were equally excited & obsessed the moment they were aware of the other.