[ SECRET POST #6107 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6107 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 32 secrets from Secret Submission Post #873.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
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Comments

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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah this is me at the moment with my current fandom. It was pretty active to start with, but a year later it has died down with me and two other people writing the fanfics (which is annoying to see people go 'omg yay new content for this fandom' - which on one hand yay comments - but on the other hand it sucks to be content providers instead of just enjoying fandom)

[lokiofsassgaard]

Yeah, I'm in a discord server for a fandom, and although the fandom itself is thriving the server is... not. I feel bad for the owner and the mods, but there are so many reasons why fandom spaces fail to thrive these days, and every single one of them comes back to fandom attitudes. What can you do but move on and find somewhere else to do your own thing?

[tabaqui]

Man, same. It sucks when a fandom just kind of...fades.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for making my comment into a secret, OP!

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[(Anonymous)]

It's very easy to have a 0% shipbaited score: simply withhold predictions and always be skeptical that anything will be canon. Done, 100% never baited, pat yourself on the back.

This would be more impressive if you can list and somehow prove 1) non-explicit queer ships in 2) non-explicitly queer media that 3) you DID predict would happen that happened, but you can't exactly do that anon.

As-is this secret says nothing much besides that OP seems to think that queerbaiting means "will they or won't they, now with 100% more gays!" and doesn't realize they aren't the same thing.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel this. I always use to wonder if I was immune to getting desperate for shows/media to make a queer couple canon because of entering fandom in the early 2000s where unless it was specifically a show catering to queer people then it was just unlikely to happen for the most part. This just meant that you could hit fuck-it and ship away without having to care about the source material, because if its never gonna offically be cannon then you'd still have fanfics lol.

I saw someone on Tumblr blame the show Glee for starting the trend on hearing about certain fandom ships and made some of them canon; giving an era of fans the idea that if they can be annoying enough on social media like twitter - then they'll get their way eventually.
I'm inclined to believe that tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

Mm, I feel you. Whether or not I LIKE it, I can tell when ships are being set up purposefully. Sometimes creators are throwing possibilities out there, sometimes I can tell they're committed to a specific endgame.

And that's a COMPLETELY different thing from whether two actors have chemistry! Sometimes the showrunner is pushing a couple where the actors don't particularly have chemistry, meanwhile one of them will have OFF THE WALL chemistry with someone else in the cast, and OFTEN that will lead to shippers in the writers' room who will put in more moments between those characters because they want to see them play off each other, even knowing they will never become a couple.

And both those things are completely different from the issue of what characters would have the 'best' relationship by whatever metric a group of shippers might choose! Maybe there's a canon relationship A/B where the characters don't have a mutual respect and things are really emotionally uneven, and there are fans who would love to see A with their friend C who talks them up or provides the emotional support they lack. Sometimes there's a canon relationship X/Y where the characters are nothing but a source of love and respect and support for each other... and fans want to see Y with their nemesis Z, with whom they have a fascinating and charged dynamic and more potential for drama.


To me, I think it's a problem that so many modern fans place such a high priority on a ship going canon, and make it a problem when it's not, or complain that they've somehow been played or lied to. There are a lot of factors that go into shippability, for canon and non-canon pairings alike. But a lot of people run with the word 'queerbaiting' when it's NOT really accurate-- not all of those ships are intentionally teased in the marketing just because the actors have chemistry or someone in the writer's room prefers them to the endgame ship! And when it's the case of an actor or writer who does not get to make the decision as to what is and isn't canon, but who genuinely loves the non-canon ship... like, babes, that's not malicious, that's them agreeing with us and wanting to give us something nice, and it's up to us how we play with it once we get it!

[(Anonymous)]

It’s a mixture of: a lot of fans really are that bad at reading narrative text, and fans grouping around other fans who are good at making themselves sound correct and trusting them to be right even when they’re not. And said fans enjoying the attention and believing their own hype because they have an audience.

Combine the two and you have a recipe for disaster imo which is why so much of modern fandom is… like this. Slapping on the QB label is just an excuse to give their petty ire a moral justification most of the time.

[(Anonymous)]

Mmm, I just don't like it when writers/showrunners tease the fans. I don't mean tease as in leave them crumbs to make them think a ship is going happen, I mean tease as in thinking that constantly joking about whether the characters are gay or not in the show itself is funny. I got fed up with it in Sherlock, and I didn't even want Sherlock and John romantically together in canon.

[(Anonymous)]

You know, it's really weird to me that I've come across people accusing creators/writers of more than one show of queerbaiting when there were actual queer characters and relationships on those shows. The characters were just not the ones those people wanted, I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

I have no interest in what will be canon and it is a great's way to live.

[(Anonymous)]

It honestly really sucks being stuck in a fandom where seemingly 90% of my fellow shippers were utterly convinced the clearly-not-going-to-be-canon ship would be made canon, because it's almost impossible to actually talk about the ship as they exist in the canon, it becomes all about this never going to happen canon status that the fandom is salivating over and when the inevitable fall happens it turns into an absolute clusterfuck where the fandom rips itself to pieces. I just want to talk about my ships without it turning into fights over 'winning'. :(

I know ship fandoms have always had no chill, but I really wish people could just enjoy what they ship regardless of canon-status because it doesn't ultimately matter. I have both canon and non-canon ships, neither type is better, they're all fun.

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[(Anonymous)]

Fuck off with your fatphobia, asswipe

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[greghousesgf]

she was really funny in Some Like It Hot and All About Eve, too!

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OP

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you, Secret-Maker!

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[(Anonymous)]

Then you need to make that clear in an author's note.

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[(Anonymous)]

I feel you. I love seeing characters break down if it feels like the breakdown that character would have! And for some characters, it takes a LOT to push them there, and they will not break down over every little thing (though they appear to break down over one little thing that just happens to be the last straw)... and some are freaking out CONSTANTLY! But it does not work to write the former as the latter!


Another variant I enjoy, the character who is unflappable about catastrophic injury or disaster, but ALSO constantly breaks down over 'insignificant' things.

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Favorite minor characters

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