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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-10-04 07:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #6116 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6116 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I love those shows. But I like any show that is just throwing facts at me for a specific topic.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I was there.

But also, Stranger Things, The Goldbergs, GLOW, Joker, Wonder Woman 1984, Cocaine Bear, Weird: The Al Yankovic Story (new season or released in the last 5 years). And there are a lot of movies and shows made during the 80s available to watch.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-05 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I was going to say. There are a million movies and shows that are actually from the 80s that are readily available these days.

Like, E.T., Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Airplane, Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, The Neverending Story, Ghostbusters, Back to the Future, Aliens, Terminator, The Shining, Blade Runner, and Die Hard are all well-known enough that you mention them to the average person today and they'll at the very least have heard of them.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
In general I've never understood adults getting mad at kids or younger adults for not knowing about some pop culture thing that existed 20+ years before they were born. Unless they have parents or other relatives that show them something they're not going to know about it, because that's how time works.

It's flabbergasting I've had to point this out to people my own age as if it's some kind of alien logic. Plus if you're not an asshole about it you're much more likely to get the younger person to be interested in it and even become a fan. Being a dick will only turn them away from it.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-05 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Lol I turned 20 in 1987 and felt much as you do about old pop culture. One of my parents would start talking about Mozzy "Boom-Boom" Gaberstein (a name I just made up) and I'd be all "Who's Mozzy "Boom-Boom" Gaberstein?" and my parents would scoff and say "Kids today, he's only the southwestern Catskill's greatest one-armed ventriloquist, stupid ass kids don't know ANYTHING!!!" And I'd basically be like, mmmkay, this guy was a hit 35 years before I was born, and died when I was two, so how am I supposed to know about him again?
But yeah, I feel you.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-05 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I always thought people learned about older pop culture through their parents or older relatives. I used to babysit my niece when I was a teenager and I would make them listen to all my favorite music. She’s a teenager herself now and she told me that her teacher was surprised she knew Thursday’s music because he thought kids didn’t listen to them anymore.

But people who get annoyed at “kids these days” not knowing stuff also forget that not everyone has the same exposure to pop culture that they did. I had a friend who was shocked that I’d never listened to The Beatles before meeting her. That had been her dad’s favorite band. Well, it wasn’t my dad’s favorite, so of course I’d never listened to them before.
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[personal profile] paullennon 2023-10-05 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
This is such a good point, pop culture is so hand me down in that it is passed on to us and then we pass it on to others, if we think to.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-05 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Media aimed at kids and teenagers in the 80s and 90s tended to reference older pop culture a lot. It's possible you could have watched weekday cartoons in the 90s without acquiring a passing familiarity with golden age cinema personalities and 60s and 70s pop culture phenomena, but you'd have had to make the effort not to learn (or never watched anything made by Disney or Warner Bros). And that's not even touching things like Nick at Night and the fact that shows like Gilligan's Island were still playing reruns 20 years after the show went off the air.

Most shows these days are hyper-focused on appealing to a specific demographic, and most young people aren't limited to watching whatever's on tv at a specific time. There are advantages to that, but it means you don't really have the pop-cultural crossover that used to exist, and the loss is recent enough that some of the older folks aren't really aware of it.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-05 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
The early 80s was forty years ago.

And old people back then were plenty annoyed we didn't know pop culture from the 40s, didn't laugh at ventriloquists, thought Ed Sullivan was cringe (still think so), barely recognized Elizabeth Taylor and Frank Sinatra.

I have to remind my husband of this sometimes, just because something's memorable to us doesn't mean that kids have to know about it.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-05 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I remember watching Looney Tunes cartoons in the early 80s that had all kinds of cultural references from the 40s and 50s and getting absolutely none of them. My parents recognised the references, my grandparents thought the references were funny.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2023-10-05 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Ed Sullivan was always cringe, people just watched his show for the Beatles or the Who or whatever good guests he had on.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-05 11:28 am (UTC)(link)
My favourite thing is when a kid very seriously references something that's decades old and ascribes it to something newer. Like 'this song is pretty old, it was in from Despicable Me' and it's the Bee Gees 'You should be dancing'. I mean, you're not wrong! It's so cute to me.

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(Anonymous) 2023-10-05 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean sure, kids could go back and watch the greatest hits of 50/40/30 years ago, but why would they when there's new cartoons and minecraft? How would they even know what's worth watching? Sure parents, but it's hard to get kids interested in old things.