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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-10-04 07:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #6116 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6116 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-10-04 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Are these Ricardians who "ruin" everything by not making Richard a two-dimensional cartoon villain in the room with us right now? Even Philippa Gregory, whom everyone cites as part of the problem, succumbed to the Tudor propaganda and turned him incestuous! And, trust, the people who insist on turning Henry VII into an ahistorical knight in shining armor are WAY more annoying than the people who want R3 to be a tragic antihero.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-05 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, come on, seriously?

(Anonymous) 2023-10-05 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, here we go. It's wildly illogical to act like it's totally black and white - either Richard III is an "evil Shakespearean hunchback" or he's a sexy,misunderstood saint. Truth is, he was a well respected strategist and soldier, loyal af to his brother, but... his hatred and fear of the Woodvilles and of being left out in the cold political meant he made some really fucked up decisions that ultimately led to his downfall. He has an established track record of executing people who got in his way without any sort of trial or solid proof of wrongdoing. Only people who are in denial about this act like it'd be unthinkable of him to quietly have his nephews smothered in their sleep in order to remove the threat to his throne.

And, you know, just because a person doesn't think Richard III should be canonized doesn't mean they worship Henry VII. They were both products of their time, as ruthless as they had to be in a ruthless era where various factions were plotting against one another. Henry VII was no warrior, unlike Richard III. He didn't win because he was a hero on the battlefield, he won through many other factors, including Richard undermining his own cause. Only the Henry VII society (IS there a Henry VII society?) doesn't spend their time hand-wringing about how wronged their woobie is.

(Anonymous) 2023-10-05 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
Phillipa Gregory turns everything incestuous.