[ SECRET POST #6116 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6116 ⌋

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Comments

[meadowphoenix]

i quibble with analogizing this to perkin warbeck, but i agree that in every way richard's positioning of himself as a more respectable claimant than even his dead brother, to the point of slandering his mom a bit, which is W I L D, suggests something entirely different and yes a little worse about richard's ethics.

there's also an assumption in this whole conversation that richard's culpability resides in whether he gave an actual order, and like....it doesn't lmao. "i won't tell you to do [bad thing] but i also won't inquire if anything happens" is a common political workaround even now.

[(Anonymous)]

Richard wasn't the one going around accusing Edward IV of being illegitimate. You're thinking of George. Richard's defense of his usurpation rested solely on questioning the legitimacy of Edward's marriage to Elizabeth Woodville and the children thereof.

[meadowphoenix]

No, Richard WAS in fact going around saying that lmao (in addition to it being part of George's attainder). It was supposedly made in that wild "sermon" at Richard's request by Ralph Shaw made when Richard was trying to shore up his claim and which comprised most of his arguments (eta: probably to gauge what would stick...unsurprisingly that one did not stick). Richard was doing absolutely the most.