[ SECRET POST #6139 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6139 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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05. [SPOILERS for Our Flag Means Death]




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06. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia, etc]




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[Translation: "I wish there were more Welsh language TV shows and films"]

























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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT. Oh, I'm not saying she's without troubling views. I think some mistrust is absolutely warranted. I just don't think she deserves the sheer level of vitriol she gets for what she's actually been proven to have said and done.

[meadowphoenix]

i find it weird that when it comes to commentary on the matter people who says she doesn't deserve a level of vitriol (specifics and from whom they never say) when she actively courts a level of vitriol directed to trans people, whom she directly quote tweets because of their criticism of her, and who are in fact not giving any level of vitriol towards her. like why talk about the level of vitriol towards her, when there's a general level of vitriol toward anyone on the internet about ~contraversial~ stuff and she's very unlikely getting the worst of it and very likely knows she's directing it toward people who aren't giving her that energy back, considering the level of platform.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you consider doxxing, death threats, and showing up outside of someone's home in order to intimidate them to be a sufficiently heightened level of vitriol?

[meadowphoenix]

the death threats? no, literally every outspoken/visible woman on the internet is getting that. that's a normal level for even non-controversial famous people. death threats are ubiquitous. the internet is that bad, as a rule.

showing up and swatting/doxxing is imo heightened and is also what is happening to the trans woman jkr quote tweets, and is also actively advocated against trans people in general by the people jkr shows support for, so again, the concern for her specifically is quite odd, considering the disparate levels of safety the various people involved can afford. like of the people who are literally getting killed for showing support for someone...it's not the people showing support for transphobes, it's the people showing support for trans people, and the people actively inciting that violence are the people jkr says they're happy to funnel money to.

someone saying something about "vitriol" against jkr in a conversation she is apparently fine with increase the vitriolic nature of towards people who criticize her and whom it is much easier to harm offline is not being thoughtful or empathetic or considering the ethics of harm like they think.

[(Anonymous)]

First, you said in your initial comment that the people she criticizes are not aiming any vitriol toward her, and that those saying she's on the receiving end never give specifics. Now, you've shifted your position to...yes, she receives vitriol, and it's from people she criticizes, but it doesn't count.

Second, let's have some receipts for her funneling money to people who incite violence. Let's also have some receipts for people literally being killed for merely supporting trans people.

[(Anonymous)]

Shhh, don't interrupt or question the witch-burning!

[meadowphoenix]

that those saying she's on the receiving end never give specifics
have you yet?

it's from people she criticizes
nope, never said this. I'm just not denying she receive death threats. there's no reason to do so, it's a function of being visible on the internet, and is not a heightened function of her discourse. I do think doxxing is heightened, but there are those lack of specifics again.

Second, let's have some receipts for her funneling money to people who incite violence.
https://twitter.com/wizardingnews/status/1518650786347163651
This woman very specifically was supportive of trans people.

Let's also have some receipts for people literally being killed for merely supporting trans people.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/23/california-pride-flag-killing-carleton-00112570
Aliison Bailey is one of the founders of LGB Alliance, which works with the Heritage Foundation
For more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou_xvXJJk7k
hth