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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-11-25 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #6168 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6168 ⌋

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Re: Who is Your Least Favorite Character?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-26 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, you are step away from saying that experiments on children are good because it benefits humanity and somehow anon objecting to that is with issues

Re: Who is Your Least Favorite Character?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-26 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
No? I am talking about this specific instance where one specific person has the only possible key left to the saving of humanity. In this instance, saving the one specific person because otherwise you would have to confront the unprocessed death of your child and you simply Can't Have That - that's an asshole move. And for some reason people are defending the asshole as if he did a morally correct thing in saving himself some emotional pain at the expense of invalidating the choices of the specific person and condemning the human race to extinction.

I'm not extrapolating this into a universal truth that Child Experimentation Is Good. That's what everyone else seems to WANT me to be doing because otherwise they'd have to face the fact that they're not as moral as they'd like to think.

Re: Who is Your Least Favorite Character?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-26 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, we started good. Most of the people who are a bit baffled how not wanting to kill a child make them bad people do not have full information about canon. That includes me. And it was mentioned several times. So probably you are right this character is selfish etc etc. I really do not know.
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THEN you had to imply. I don't even fucking know what you are implying. That we all here are amoral because we questioned black and white thinking? We are all cunts because we do not automatically consider person evil for being simply human? I don't even

Re: Who is Your Least Favorite Character?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-26 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh, I see the issue here. You decided to come into a conversation about a very specific canon circumstance and pretend you knew exactly what was going on.

So, yes. You. Specifically you, the person I am responding to right now, are the biggest cunt because you disregarded the whole context of the conversation I was trying to have with Ariakas about a specific plot point in a game - a plot point that we were complaining about people deliberately misunderstanding because the writers of the game made it explicit - and decided I was talking about general child murder and calling everyone who hated it evil even though I never used the word evil.

You're definitely a cunt, cause what the fuck are you on? Go perform your outrage porn somewhere else.

Re: Who is Your Least Favorite Character?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-26 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It's fallible on the part of the characters who claim it that Ellie is the only chance to save humanity. (At least, I believe it is from what I recall. If they were presented as knowing this with certainty somehow, I'd just call that bad writing because nobody can know something like that for sure.) Humans would still live on for a while if she wasn't sacrificed, and there's as much of a chance of another cure being developed without needing to kill anyone as there is of the procedure on Ellie being successful -- that is, it's a toss-up.

Re: Who is Your Least Favorite Character?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-27 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
She's the only known character to have this mutation at all in the last 20 years. She's the first person in 20 years to develop an immunity to any behavioral changes while having the fungus in her brain stem. Which is where it lives. So if they do find someone else with the same immunity which could mean a vaccine, they would still need to get into the brain stem. So, no, no chance of a cure being developed without needing to kill someone. Humans would still live, with the caveat that thousands would continue to die each day from the disease and subsequent environments created by it until someone else comes by with this mutation, or humans would still live, with the caveat that thousands would continue to die each day from the disease and subsequent environments created by it until the whole species dies out from continuing to lose more people each year than are born.

It's only a toss up of the procedure leading to a cure. Which, when your options are Absolutely No vs Maybe.... I'm gonna go with Maybe.