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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-12-04 07:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #6177 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6177 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
Funnily enough, hot takes like the one OP here have is why I don't engage in fandom much anymore. LOL

I understand we all have differing opinions, talking to each other about our preferences and why we like what we like, but why engage with people who don't even want to hear you out or look at something with a new/different perspective?

That's the real reason as to why I've taken a step back from fandom.

Everyone is just so sure their opinion is the "right" opinion. It's about winning the argument, not so much futhering discussion on art/creativity or challenging oneself to see beyond their own biases and preferences.

It's always about how other people are stupid and wrong and therefore fuck you and your opinions.
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(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like this is the internet in general these days, including this comm.

I remember when I first got online in the late '90s. There were trolls and assholes, of course, but it was so much easier for two people with different perspectives to have a good conversation. Hell, I feel like that was the case even just about 10 years ago.

You go to a site that's supposedly about discussion now, and at best it's just everyone smugly saying "lol" and "k" at each other; at worst they're writing treatises on how the other person is irredeemably bad.

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
>>I feel like this is the internet in general these days

I have my own simple explanation for this phenomenon.
ONCE UPON A TIME *dramatic voice*, writing and surfing the internet and fandom communities was more intentional. You had to sit down at the PC to read discussions. You had to cut out time from your routine for it.
Nowadays, a lot of "discussions" is made in a more distracted mode. On smartphones or even at the PC, the amount of information and entertainment available only a click away is way more distracting, so people don't have the patience of writing a thoughtful reply or even just to think about stuff more deeply.
They want to interact with the discussion, but have no time to write or even think of a reasonable answer, so they do the "lol", "k", "you're wrong" routine.

It gets pretty tiring because it's like there is two very different approaches to fandom that meets in the same space: one slower, that wants to have thoughtful conversations and meta analysis; one way faster, that doesn't have the time nor mental energy to engage in any kind of thoughtful discussion.
Unfortunately the faster pace people overwhelm the others, so discussions become scarce and difficult for everybody.

(like someone else said: trolls were abundant even back in the day and I think the amount of them is almost the same even now. Maybe even less. It's the people that are not trolls but have no time nor energy to add to the conversations that are waaaaay more)

(Anonymous) 2023-12-05 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
>>Everyone is just so sure their opinion is the "right" opinion. It's about winning the argument, not so much furthering discussion on art/creativity or challenging oneself to see beyond their own biases and preferences.

>>It's always about how other people are stupid and wrong and therefore fuck you and your opinions.

DAMN. I feel this so much it hurts.
IDK if that's how I was raised, but I always try to see beyond my own preference and bias and look at what other people enjoy and why. That was always the beauty of fandom discussions and metas for me.
In the back of my mind there is always a "I hate this, but someone surely enjoys it. I want to know why! They see something I don't, surely!". It doesn't mean I have to change my mind or that the other person is right or wrong, but I'm just curious about what other people think about the media I enjoy or hate.
We are all different and our opinions and experiences are all over the place. That's the beauty of humanity, for me.