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[ SECRET POST #6210 ]

⌈ Secret Post #6210 ⌋

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Terrible take. Unbelievably bad take.

Please Leave.

Power levels do not matter to most fans and should not matter in most creative works

Leave, please.

I don't know why you would think just repeating it would make me leave?

Eh, when it comes to superheros, I think power levels absolutely do matter. The nature and strength of various abilities is a large part of what defines the characters.

Hard disagree! What defines the characters is narrative logic, emotional logic and aesthetic logic. That can't and shouldn't be quantified in precise terms.

The reason that Spider-Man can lift a ton of mechanical wreckage up off himself to go save his aunt is *not* because he has some precisely-delineated level of strength that allows him to lift a specified weight. The reason he can do that is because the ability to do that - to push himself beyond physical boundaries to fulfill his responsibilities to the ones he loves - is a fundamental aspect of his character.

But the other reason he can do that is because he has superpowers that give him extraordinary strength.

The idea isn't that superheroes are defined by nothing but their powers; it's that the possession of powers is at the core of their characters, and it's what makes people choose to read or watch about them rather than read or watch other types of fiction. All fictional characters have a narrative and emotional logic to them, and many have as aesthetic logic, as well. The reason someone goes to see an MCU film rather than, say, Manchester By the Sea is because they want to see an action flick where powerful beings use their magical powers to solve problems and fight one another.

tbh Disney has pretty much shat the floor with Superheros that I doubt that they could even pull off anything close to a 'good' X-men or Fantastic 4 movie.

Fantastic Four, certainly. Multiverse of Madness was such a horrible introduction to them.

I don't read comics. But I thought that Scarlett Witch was a top tier superhero with more power than most.

Doesn't excuse the way Reed went out like a chump though. That wasn't even a redshirt level death. A horrible introduction to a hero who is also supposed to be one of the universe's most capable. I'd say the same about Black Bolt, but nobody gives a crap about the inhumans anyway, they are not going to be an ongoing part of the MCU going forward.

At least Xavier went out with compassion and empathy, more Obi Wan-esque than anything else. He was trying to help Wanda, not hurt her.

When did Xavier die? I'm so confused....

At the end of Act Two.

....and that tells me nothing. Oh well.

Multiverse of Madness, he died trying to reach the part of Wanda's mind that wasn't crazed by addled magic. It was buried under a mental image of a Stark Bomb, meaning even after he was dead, Tony Stark was still responsible for everything bad that happened to the MCU.

Huh. I guess I didn't see that one...? I just don't remember. There are so many and the X-men movies in particular got so weird....

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It's all a matter of how much power they want to give her. Dazzler is theoretically one of the top-tier powerful Marvel characters, but she's usually a chump because people just think "disco powers." One of the comic book matchup sites has a "Spider-Man vs. Firelord" rule, named for the time a hero you've heard of beat a villain who can normally survive getting punched through planets and out the other side. The only rule is that Squirrel Girl wins.

On any given day, full-power Wanda is basically the one of the top 5 most powerful mutants in the comics-verse. She’s way out of the X-Men’s league.

That's what I thought, which is why this secret seems weird to me.

Multiverse of Madness was just a shit idea and a shit movie all round. Wanda's "power level" is not the problem here.

No, it was a good idea. It was just poorly executed. Especially the X-Men/FF/MTVU elements, which were there just to be Worfed. It kinda worked with Xavier, because we had this familiarity and attachment to his character, and they made choices with his character that was consistent with the previous portrayal, but as an introduction to the Fantastic Four and Inhumans, that was just bad. It is hard to take a character seriously as a hero and an actual intelligent person when they went out so easy and like such a dummy in their first introduction. It doesn't show how powerful Wanda was, it just shows how much of a useless moron Reed Richards is. Even the redshirting of Captain Carter was better handled, and her power is she can punch really hard so it was never even a contest there, and she still got a better fight against Wanda.

They should stick her on a deserted island and have Magneto keep an eye on her.

What should the rest of the movie be about?

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