[ SECRET POST #6268 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #6268 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.



__________________________________________________



02.



__________________________________________________



03.
[Rimworld Fan Art]



__________________________________________________



04.



__________________________________________________



05.



__________________________________________________



06.



__________________________________________________



07.

































Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 24 secrets from Secret Submission Post #896.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Funny how a female character can be the protagonist of her story and yet if she gets a romance in that story, some will see her as "reduced to a love interest." Funny how this is never said about male protagonists who get a romance. And the people who say this think they're the feminist fans.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean it's not exactly wrong to say that the predominant factor driving fandom interest in Reylo is Adam Driver being hot

[(Anonymous)]

Not always, but you do you.

[(Anonymous)]

The cultural milieu currently is that romance with men is a net negative for women. The empowering thing is for a woman not to fall in love or get into a relationship with a man. Within this framework, a female character who has a het romance is meeting the needs of men, not her own.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not into Star Wars but this really is a thing that happens. See Bones for example: you have a great female lead but as soon as she and the male lead get together it turns into "he was right about everything also babies ever after." The female character loses her ambition, drive and primary place in the narrative because they think otherwise audiences won't deal.

It's not always the case - see Veronica Mars - but there is such a thing as reducing the female character to the "love interest" rather than an actual person.

[(Anonymous)]

It’s not that she’ll be seen in fans’ eyes as reduced to a love interest, it’s that we don’t trust the studios not to reduce her to a love interest in her own movie. Hollywood still can’t write women.

[(Anonymous)]

+1 this exactly.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly!

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Nope.

[(Anonymous)]

Hollywood often writes perfectly fine women, but women don't like them.

It's hen-pecking shit. The loudest female voices in media criticism will never be satisfied with any female character, because the point of the criticism is to signal to other women what they are and are not allowed to do, and who they are and are not allowed to be, if they want to be in the favor of those at the top of the social hierarchy.

[(Anonymous)]

+100

[(Anonymous)]

Or... we have higher standards than you do for what makes a female character NOT a caricature...

[(Anonymous)]

No, you don't.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I do.

[(Anonymous)]

No, you just like to think you do, and it makes you obnoxious.

[(Anonymous)]

The problem is that there's next to nothing you think isn't a caricature. Actual women can't meet those "higher standards," which is what makes it clear that it's more about seeking status and enforcing hierarchy.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, it's actually simple. A woman who has her own story line with character development that isn't just to be a love interest to man, or devolve into being just a love interest for a man. Simple. Yet most of them don't meet this. And y'all seem fine with that and call the rest of us misogynists for wanting something different.

[(Anonymous)]

Fucking amen

[(Anonymous)]

There are plenty of stories, TV shows and movies about women that do meet these guidelines, but they tend to be in genres that a lot of women are actually into, like mysteries or historical stories. There's plenty of SF books like that, too. Action movies tend to be more of a guy thing.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not fine with characters who are actually that, but what Y'ALL do is call it "devolving into a love interest" whenever a female character gets a love interest, even if she has a bigger story and the romance is just a part of it. You suddenly see her as "love interest" instead of the man, when really he is the one whose role is to be "the love interest" in her story.

[(Anonymous)]

+100

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

[(Anonymous)]

Because most of woman-led movies are romance and most of man-led films are action movies?

If you are feminist,don't you want to see films where the female character is just the love interest and also movies where she's not?