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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-03-05 07:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #6269 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6269 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-03-06 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
OH why is "fine" not fine? ESL speaker here and I have no idea. *_*

(Anonymous) 2024-03-06 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Nayrt but even though it's not technically incorr5,it's just not the usual phrasing for most native English speakers in North America. "Fine" is the typical response to being asked how you doing.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-06 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Not technically incorrect, I mean.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-06 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I see! Thank you :D
I hope I never used "are you fine?" myself, but EH it's highly probable I did sometimes... orz

(Anonymous) 2024-03-06 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

It's grammatically correct, but a quirk of at least American English is that "fine" in practical use is almost always reserved for first person perspective, unless you want to say someone is sexy.

Examples:

"Damn, she's fine." to an American English speaker will mean "Damn, she's sexy." Our first thought won't be "How horrible, she's not injured."

"Are you okay?" the answer can be "Yeah, I'm fine." because it's referring to yourself and an American English speaker won't think you're answering that you're sexy.

"Are you fine?" to an American English speaker sounds like "Are you sexy?"

The only time I can think of when I wouldn't be jarred hearing fine in second person would be reassuring someone, such as after a car accident or something "You're fine, you're fine" = "you're not hurt, you're alright" but in practice it's more of a first person by proxy, since the person in the accident is in shock so the rescuer is telling them what they should be telling themselves. People in North America are more likely to say "You're okay" or "You're alright" in that kind of circumstance, but it wouldn't be jarring to say "You're fine."

Similar situation for third as well. "Is he okay?" "Yeah, he's fine." The person is answering in proxy and can use the word "fine" without it sounding like they're calling him sexy. Sometimes this is used for laughs, where the tone of "Yeah, he's fine" makes it obvious that the person answering is saying he's sexy and not actually answering whether or not he's injured. "Yeah... he is fine...Oh you meant injured!"

(Anonymous) 2024-03-06 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

OOOOH I had no idea! Thank you for this answer! Your examples were very easy to get.
I knew that fine could also mean sexy/hot, but I was not aware of the nuance when using it as a question.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-06 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Honestly, with English as my first language, I wasn't aware of the nuance either until I started seeing a lot of "Are you fine?" in my first Chinese fandom. And it bugged me because that wasn't something I had ever heard before and I kept mulling over it until I could figure out why we don't say that in North America.