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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-03-17 05:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #6281 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6281 ⌋

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[personal profile] philstar22 2024-03-17 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Not my secret, but I 100% agree. That would be amazing.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-17 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I would LOVE that

(Anonymous) 2024-03-17 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Not a show, but that's Phoenix Wright.

(And the fact that I don't watch courtroom dramas and Phoenix Wright is my main experience with courtroom media made me realize how my perception of the justice system in media is so different from how it actually is; between that and To Kill a Mockingbird I thought "heroic defense attorneys proving wrongly-accused innocent" was the standard formula.)

(Anonymous) 2024-03-17 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
It was fairly standard if you go back to the 1990s or earlier. The ensemble shows tended to show a more balanced mix of prosecutors and defense attorneys, and there was a lot of defending the innocent from the rich and corrupt. Back then, most of the scorn was reserved for corporate lawyers and the scammier breed of ambulance chaser.
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[personal profile] paperghost 2024-03-18 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I was just about suggest Ace Attorney!

(Anonymous) 2024-03-18 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Dick Wolf admitted he is just pro cop and only interested in shows that make them and prosecutors look good. That only guilty people need attorneys.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-03-18 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Did you watch the Perry Mason reboot while it was on?
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[personal profile] luxshine 2024-03-18 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Raising the Bar was sort of like that. While it also showcased the judges and the prosecutors, it was very obvious it was on the side of the lawyers and tried to show the injustices of the system. Pity it only lasted 2 seasons.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-18 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't The Practice created as a specific counterpoint to L&O? I remember reading something about the creator saying he wanted to see things from the "scummy criminal defense pov" (paraphrase). Those characters are pretty heroic, IIRC.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-18 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Agree, I'd totally watch that.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-18 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
So Help Me, Todd gets into that territory, though it's got a much goofier tone. It's like... the Psych/Perry Mason lovechild?

(Anonymous) 2024-03-18 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
In 2006-2007 Victor Garber starred in a show called Justice, which was about a firm of defense attorneys. They are a bit cynical but as I recall they follow the law and represent their clients as well. One kind of cool aspect of the show was the epilogue of each episode which showed the audience what actually happened, and whether the client was guilty or innocent. I was sorry when the show was cancelled.

Jerry O'Connell and Jim Belushi also had a short lived series called The Defenders, which I remember liking. I can't recall if it was actually good or if I just liked the fact it was about defense attorneys instead of cops!

I watched original recipe L&O for years but I didn't feel the same about it after Ben Stone left. He seemed to be more about the law than the win, which I liked about him.

Some (British) legal shows that focus on defense

(Anonymous) 2024-03-18 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Silk (2011-2014) - serious, focuses on a defense barrister genuinely trying to do her job right as she struggles with maintaining faith in the system

Rumpole of the Bailey (1978-1992) - funny, focuses on a defense barrister who generally has to solve a mystery to help his client (who is often innocent of at least part of what they’re accused of)

The Brief (2004-2005) - a bit more about the private life of a defense barrister trying to juggle his messy life

(Anonymous) 2024-03-18 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
The Good Wife (and I didn't watch The Good Fight, but I'm assuming that too), though I'd say the defense attorneys are more morally nuanced than old school Perry Mason and sometimes the clients are innocent, sometimes they are guilty, and sometimes it depends on perspective as to guilt, and some of the judges are... quirky.

Suits isn't quite like that, but sometimes the defense attorneys are trying for justice and sometimes the clients are innocent.

Eli Stone, but there is some surrealness to the show.

I haven't watched it, but there's The Lincoln Lawyer.

(Anonymous) 2024-03-18 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
YESSSSSSSSSSS
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[personal profile] msilverstar 2024-03-20 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Great idea, and great recs in the comments!

(Anonymous) 2024-03-23 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
I would just love to see a series where Defense Attorneys are just depicted as people trying to do their jobs, representing a wide spectrum of clients, some guilty as sin with a wide variety of motives (ranging from noble to scummy), some innocent, and others, well they didn't do the crime they were on trial for, but they are an awful person guilty of many other crimes they weren't tried for.

It's just something I've seen when it comes to shows regarding the legal system. If a show is being depicted from the prosecution's perspective, then the defense is pure, slimy evil who doesn't care that their client is guilty, just that they get a big paycheck when they are found not guilty. If a show is depicted from the defense's side, then the prosecuting attorney is a Javert who doesn't care whether the client actually committed the crime, so long as someone hangs for the crime.

Can we have a show where both sides are just ordinary people with a mixture of good and bad traits, who chose the side they did for a wide variety of reasons and are just trying to do their jobs to the best of their abilities?