[ SECRET POST #092 ]

[grayout.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #092 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 61 secrets from Secret Submission Post #014.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Sunday, April 8th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: Here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

You and I already came to an understanding. I thought this entire wank was done, but then someone drags it on a day later, claiming to 'just want to end it', but is clearly trying to put someone down for disagreeing, still.

I am honestly amused at people thinking ONE person is making THEM look bad. Why? Because I'm questioning what they think? I admit, I shouldn't have used the word dumbassery and I retract it. It was bitchy of me. I am just angry this is dragging on. And am aware I basically did no part in helping it stop by replying to this, but I felt it was necessary to point out the constant contradictory statements that are going on in this conversation.

That's not being condescending, it's showing someone that what they are saying has a double standard to it, just like how you've shown me that my 'hateful' language is a double standard.

If they don't cry about it, are they not insulted? I'm sorry, I don't understand where you're coming from. "I'M not insulted by this, so no one else should be?" There are ways to express opinions without being insulting at all.

That wasn't what I was trying to get, but okay. You can think that. I'm laughing at you coming to me telling me people are complaining about me making them look bad as a group, when those people were the ones that were sticking up for people just 'sharing their opinions' in the first place, no matter how relentless or incessantly offensive they may be.

[grayout.livejournal.com]

Actually, the group in question was "gay women" (probably due to those "lol internet dykes" comments, and them not wanting to be associated with this), not the people standing up for the secret.

And like I said, there are ways to make points, and to point out double standards, in a manner that isn't condescending. It's not the fact that you're pointing it out, it's the word choice and how you go about doing it, intended or not.

[grayout.livejournal.com]

I don't know; don't ask me.

People are weird.

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry to the group 'gay women', and I guess I'm not a real gay woman because I have offended every other one in sight.

So, gay women, this is my public apology to you: I am sorry that I apparently make you look bad. I tried to be the cool kid that sits with you at lunch, but now I know why you all suddenly 'had to go' whenever I sat down.

This is bs, the people on the other end have used similar wording trying to point out our 'intolerance' towards the secret maker. I don't care that a BNF hates gays. I don't care that people think campy gay men are evil. I'm not horribly offended by the secret. I just wanted to discuss this with people, but apparently I can't!! So never mind. It's not a big deal, anymore, I'll still call you and we're still on for dinner tomorrow night.

[grayout.livejournal.com]

Apologies in advance for being blunt.

You can say anything you want, but if you're going to be a bitch doing it, people are going to call you on it. And other people are going to be like "shit, she's being a bitch, I hope people don't think all lesbians are like this." And that's just how things are.

For the record, I'm with you in terms of wanting tolerance and all that jazz, but if I weren't? You would be the type that would make me disagree from an originally neutral stance, or make me disagree even more from an originally negative stance.

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

Apologies for the LOLs in advance, but:


You can say anything you want, but if you're going to be a bitch doing it, people are going to call you on it. And other people are going to be like "shit, she's being a bitch, I hope people don't think all lesbians are like this." And that's just how things are.

Lol. Wow, are people really so retarded that they think one person represents an entire group of people? If they don't like me, fine, but for anyone to be paranoid that I somehow represent lesbians on a whole is just stupid and an unfounded fear, and I have no sympathy or regrets for them.

You would be the type that would make me disagree from an originally neutral stance, or make me disagree even more from an originally negative stance.

Gee, you are ignorant. All of the points I make go out the window because I use mean hurtful internet words (..once? the dumbassery thing, which I shouldnt have said but that was today, apparently AFTER the complaining of 'gay women' started), yet when others do the same thing...

Agh, just never mind. Its obvious I'm a big horrible bitch 8D I retract EVERYTHING said in ANY THREAD EVER, and I'm SO sorry to GAY WOMEN for making them look awful!! I'm officially turning in my gay membership card and will join the heterosexual community tomorrow.

OH GEE I HOPE THEY LIKE ME =)

[grayout.livejournal.com]

I thought you'd say something like that...

I don't know; I suppose they are that retarded, since they're afraid that other people will think so.

And I suppose I am ignorant; if I were neutral on gays and then a gay person came long and started acting like an asshole to me, then it's a natural (if not RIGHT) reaction to feel that way. That's how humans work, like it or not.

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

I just think it's hilarious that people find I'm an asshole for sharing an opinion, but attack people who find someone who says I HATE GAYS an asshole for sharing their opinion.

:') Ah, double standards.

Don't worry, I have quite an amount of self-loathing. In fact, since I represent all gays, I apparently have made myself hate all gays now. Watch out, kids, a new homophobe is in town.

[grayout.livejournal.com]

I'm not and haven't been talking from a personal perspective here, but rather as a mod that just wants this to die/not happen again.

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

I wasn't the one who brought up an old thread; however, I was the one attacked when bringing up an old thread. I'm bleeding from the internets. Help me.

[grayout.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I know. Doesn't change the fact that there are people like that, though with phobias of dogs. :(

I mean, stupid example but you know what I mean.