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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-04-28 03:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #6323 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6323 ⌋

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Re: One Positive Thing

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2024-04-28 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
not the positive part: a book about music that I bought yesterday came with a CD that turned out to be damaged
positive part: I took it back today and the bookstore guy gave me my $$ back and was very nice about it.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
And her fans are dumb.

OP

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
It's on Netflix and not a very long watch! Doesn't shy away from being raunchy and gory, though.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
https://mementoarchive.org/ is a good place to check too!

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
DA
I wouldn’t say on the whole that they’re dumb. But many of her fans are true fanatics and therefore follow blindly.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I can understand. I don't mind fishing in general but some fishing games are just tedious AF, especially if it's necessary to complete a story or special quest.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
You're assuming he likes Trump based on a single tweet he liked? K.

I really don't care about this dude, but for the record, while he's thus far kept his political views private, he's spoken in support of BLM and took a knee in support of BLM during the national anthem, he's been in a Covid vaccine commercial, he endorsed Bud Light when conservatives were losing their shit and boycotting it, and he was in a satirical SNL skit called "straight male friend".

None of that is remotely conclusive of what his political views are, but it's still a hell of a lot more indicative than a single tweet he liked. FFS.

OP to secret maker

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for turning my comment into a secret. Also, that is nice art.

Captive Prince

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone here mentioned these books surprising them (positively) with how it handles the slavery/relationship stuff and I am just curious - is it only satisfying at the end?

Idk I am just desperate for braincandy type books and keep striking out and saw these at my library. But I am not generally a fan of characters falling in love with their rapist/owner/kidnapper/etc and am on the fence if I want to give these a try.

If anyone has opinions on the books I'd love to hear them! I don't care about spoilers.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Boy, wait until you find out about all the gay men, Black men, and Latino men who like Trump!

(Anonymous) 2024-04-28 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Who's acting shocked? Nobody ITT is shocked. Everybody here is pointing out, very sensibly, that treating her songs as though they're factual accounts of one specific person or relationship is blinkered, presumptuous, and most likely incorrect. A fact which she herself has clearly stated (in gentler terms) on more than one occasion.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Frankly, the majority of the so-called "easter eggs" on TTPD seem a lot more like red herrings scattered around in order to cast doubt and confusion on who the songs are "really about."

I think some of y'all misconstrue honest song-writing with "dropping easter eggs" a lot of the time. The reality is, there's a very limited pool of people each song could conceivably be about, and is she does write a song that's inspired by one particular person/relationship, the manner in which the person/relationship is described is extremely likely to indicate who they are. For someone in Taylor Swift's position, not including any lyrics that could be perceived as indicative would be difficult.

She does sometimes drop real easter eggs in her songs, mind you, but less often than some people seem to believe. Capitalizing the KIM in "Thank You Aimee" was an extremely blatant one, for example (and honestly I think the song is worse for it). But she's never made any bones about the fact that the bad blood between her and Kim and Kanye runs deep, and honestly I don't blame her.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I just checked him out on Wikipedia and honestly I’m shocked I’ve never heard of him before. I love a bunch of his movies! But I’ll be honest that I can’t remember the score for even a single one and I’ve actually watched three in the last month.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
i remember his name.

Re: New to you media

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Killing Eve.

Re: Captive Prince

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I read the books a long time ago, but my recollection is that the slave/kidnapping/rape fuckery between the main characters (and the one MC's attitude about those things as a practice) is resolved roughly 3/4 of the way through the first book. It's also definitely a false claim that it's a "rape equals love" story; there is never any rape between the two love interests in any sense, not even a "this character wants to fuck but is the other's slave and therefore cannot consent" context. They do not fuck until the one dude gives up on slavery.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
There's no smut for Lazytown so most likely just a picture.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Does anyone know whether there's a way to get the ID, URL or title of a deleted work from a deleted bookmark in AO3?

Based on 1 - What's the fic that was the hardest for you to recover?

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Links are welcome. Was it worth the hassle?
Mine was probably a SGA fic that I lost and wanted to reread. I posted on LJ fic finder comm and someone reqognized my description right away!

Re: Captive Prince

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I adore the Captive Prince series, but— the first book is ROUGH.

Listen, I don't do noncon as a kink. Like. AT ALL. No judgement to everyone who is into it, but I am suuuper not into it. So when a romance book involves noncon, slavery, and sexual abuse elements—some of which occur between the central pairing itself—that's typically a hard dealbreaker for me.

Now that you know where I'm coming from, I will say that yes, the first book was rough. There's not a TON of noncon stuff that occurs between the leads, but there is some, and I had a very hard time imagining how the hell the narrative was going to be able to convince me the central pairing was endgame, when I basically felt like we passed the point of no return (i.e. one of the characters being too abusive for me to ever see them as a viable love interest) within the first hundred pages.

BUT WAIT, COME BACK, COME BACK!

A big part of the magic of the series is in how effectively and seamlessly it does manage to manipulate (in a good way) the reader's perspective, and develop the characters and your understanding of them. Not just in a sense of the "bad one" being "redeemed" but in a more complex, nuanced, and holistic way than that.

For me, Captive Prince doesn't feel like a "falling in love with one's captor" story at all. The vibes are completely different, the power dynamics are completely different...but it would also be technically incorrect to say that doesn't happen, sooo...yeah.

One thing I do want to note is that I don't necessarily think the series handles the systemic issue of slavery extremely well overall. It doesn't necessarily handle it badly; I was ultimately satisfied with where the story left things by the end. But the fact is that the world of CaPri is one in which sexual slavery, in one form or another, is systemically normalized and accepted, and righting that grave wrong is only peripheral to the main driving focus of the plot. It is addressed, and I don't think it's too much of a spoiler to say that we eventually get strong intimations of systemic change for the better. But if you're not going to be able to read a story set in a world with systemic sexual slavery and NOT have the entire focus be on ending systemic slavery, then this series may be dissatisfying to you.

Let me know if you want me to recount, in vague terms, the worst of the noncon/abuse that occurs between the leads.

Re: Based on 1 - What's the fic that was the hardest for you to recover?

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
The hardest? Probably anything I had to go to the Internet Archive for. I've been lucky, but some fic remains forever lost.
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Re: Based on 1 - What's the fic that was the hardest for you to recover?

[personal profile] philstar22 2024-04-29 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there is one Harry Potter fic from years ago I haven't been able to recover. It starts out with the first couple chapters with Harry captured by Voldemort. First chapter just crucius curse, Harry somehow figures out a way to not feel that, so the next chapter is physical torture including binding. Harry gets rescued but is really far gone, Fawkes bonds with him and makes him part phoenix.

At one point I had downloaded a physical copy. But I lost it. And the fic doesn't exist anymore.

Re: Based on 1 - What's the fic that was the hardest for you to recover?

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
It was an old Harry/Draco fic where they and Ron become members of parliament (the muggle British parliament) that's only up on a Internet Archive of the original writer's livejournal, I think.

It was.... good, I guess, to go back and reread it because it scratched an itch and I'd still be wondering about it if I hadn't. But it was much more Deep-England conservative and, frankly, much more politically deranged than I remembered it being.

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
There is always smut

Re: Captive Prince

(Anonymous) 2024-04-29 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt - okay it sounds like we would be coming from the same place, so you saying it was a satisfying journey does intrigue me! I generally stay away from slavery fetish but it isn't an absolute no go for me.

Honestly the whole set up of the world isn't one I normally would be interested to read but I've seen so many people be like "no but wait" and say its not their thing but they loved them anyway. So I am terribly curious!

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