[ SECRET POST #6351 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6351 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really MCU but I did find myself, in BP2, really noticing that it's hard for writers to balance good vs evil when your bad guy is a member of a marginalized culture. You almost have to lean into "traumatized background and legitimate grievance but handling it in the 100000% wrong way" or else you risk stereotyping and other horrific bad takes. So, if the writers are using the same formula in places where it doesn't have to be, then I guess yes it's tired and they need to stop.

then again, evil for evil's sake is also hard to justify as mythologies with a god of evil break down, so at some point I guess we have to get some better writing to deal with the justificaions either way.

[(Anonymous)]

Black people can still be unrepentant evil bastards. Let me tell you about a pair of guys called Papa Doc and Baby Doc...

[(Anonymous)]

oh, I know, it's just that the American corporations making these films and shows are unfortunately saddled with what I can best call a minefield of fraught conditions. How do you make anyone the "bad guys" without just going to "all black guys are thugs?" How do you make Namor as an indigenous chieftain with legit grievances not just some Mexican cartel thug in the eyes of the absolute morons buying the movie tickets and tweeting their outrage over wokeness? It's really difficult, and I don't envy anyone in charge of writing, directing, or producing that level of nuance while also toeing the Mouse's bottom line.

otoh the 90s desperation for not stereotyping and always having a happy ending was just as contorted, so, I guess, it's never been easy.

[feotakahari]

I remember some comics writer on Twitter complaining that the editors wouldn't let him do a black evil genius. He wanted "black Lex Luthor," and they said no.