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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-05-28 07:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #6353 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6353 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Chronically Online Gays. Gays in the world don't carry on like this.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Truth. I had to stop looking for queer spaces online because it was full of this and angry exclusion discourse. I found some queer spaces offline and it reminded me that most people are normal and chill.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. This is the age of the Chronically Online generation, and the young, neurodivergent queers are especially affected and, my god, I GET IT, I do, honestly (I had a late autism diagnosis and made that my ENTIRE personality for about two months before I was like 'aight time to move on') but some people just... don't know how to do something *else*. I get it, you are celebrating who you are. But like. I hate that when I'm searching for fic, I have to put in a LOT of exclusionary tags because I'm trying to curate to avoid triggering my dysphoria and these kids will just slip a bunch of c-boy fic without tagging it so I'm having a great time and all of a sudden 'x' character is having his vag fisted, like, *what*. You call it out and get yelled at for being transphobic???? because I don't want to read 'So and So gets his Boypussy Turnt out'???

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fucking christ, I have taken this way too personally LOL

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
"I'm trying to curate to avoid triggering my dysphoria and these kids will just slip a bunch of c-boy fic without tagging it so I'm having a great time and all of a sudden 'x' character is having his vag fisted, like, *what*. You call it out and get yelled at for being transphobic???? because I don't want to read 'So and So gets his Boypussy Turnt out'???"

OMG, this is a problem I have too. I'm far from a fandom old and pretty young but I remember the days of "don't like, don't read" and "your kink is not my kink, and that's okay", but that doesn't apply in this case? Like, I need to know if your stuff has certain things so I can avoid it (or read it if I'm into that), and there are personal turnoffs I have in my porn. There are transcanons for certain male characters I'm into if it's respectful (no shade to transmen who are happy to reclaim terms like c*ntboy or like trans mpreg, but I find it distasteful), but PIV and AMAB+AFAB sex is not something that turns me on and I would like to avoid it. I wish that was something I can say off anon.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
SAME. I ran into one and the author was like "No, I will not tag it trans character or vaginal sex because you people need to learn not to be transphobes." Like. What.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Which is hilariously ironic because all of the people I know who get the most upset about untagged trans character stuff are actually trans themselves and get upset about it because it triggers their own dysphoria.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I related this exact argument on a subreddit and got told that I was placing unfair burdens on trans authors as if:
a) every person who ever wrote a trans character was also trans and
b) asking anyone writing about trans people to be mindful of the experiences of some trans people by adding one tag was somehow asking too much, but ESPECIALLY if the author were trans themselves.

They basically said "Sorry trans person with dysphoria, but you being able to avoid triggers is less important than some rando not adding one tag to their story. This is more trans inclusive." That was really the position they went with.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
"The fetish of the writers is more important than the mental health of the readers", basically. Because aside from most of trans fic being a fetish in itself, tricking people into reading porn for something they dont want to can be a fetish as well.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I keep hearing about this, and it seems completely insane to me that anyone who's bought into tagging as a whole would insist on hiding the sex of the characters they're writing about to surprise readers with het sex. Put bluntly, that sounds like crap American churches or homophobes might be putting their do-gooders up to, in the misguided hope of getting gay people to see the light about penis-in-vagina. You've got some crazy twits thinking the internet has made it so easy to find degeneracy that humanity will go extinct because kids are too confused to grow up and procreate.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2024-05-29 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
Trans people offline: “It’s fine if you don’t want to have sex with us. We just hate how you talk about how fuckable or not fuckable we are every single time you see us. We exist for more reasons than to have sex with you.”

Trans people on AO3: “you’re transphobic if you can’t masturbate to trans porn.”

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
God if only it was just online. Trans women especially just won't take no for an answer sometimes.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Mm. I keep seeing articles about trans women throwing fits over not being allowed into lesbian dating scenes and trying to get the courts to force the issue.

The one I still can't believe was that Canadian trans woman who wanted punitive damages against local women who offered genital waxing services to women as a home business, but refused to do Jonathan/Jennifer Yanis' balls and penis. The claim was that, as a trans woman, it was "by definition" a pussy. AFAIK, this individual was not post operative and had never taken hormones. And they lost Canada's first major suit alleging transphobic discrimination.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Even other trans people can't question this. Every trans friend I have thinks JY is just an opportunistic creep but not even they can say that or else they're "self-hating" or "a pickme". Or they're called a "TERF" even though anti-trans radfems don't take kindly to them either.

>Mm. I keep seeing articles about trans women throwing fits over not being allowed into lesbian dating scenes and trying to get the courts to force the issue.

Bleh. I've tried talking about this too and was just told it's not even happening, even though I've gotten shit when trying to date because I'm not sexually compatible with or attracted to AMAB people. (Not ace, so just a solely romantic relationship won't work with me.) I know there are WLW who are totally open to dating transwomen but it feels like my politics are assumed despite being a generally respectful person about their gender.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds rough. Characterizing someone who acts like that as an opportunistic creep seems like the best way of going "this is not behavior the community endorses or will put its reputation on the line for." It's not betrayal to expect people to show a reasonable amount of consideration for others.

I'm sorry you've been told the other (social pressure to date trans women when you just aren't interested) isn't happening, even though it's happening to you. I think it's gotten easier to prove to people over time as some of these individuals who think it's discriminatory not to sleep with penis-havers try to get courts to punish lesbian groups. Win or lose, it's making their attempts and goals a matter of public record.

(Anonymous) 2024-05-29 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I take it there were no tags or trigger warnings on the fics?