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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-06-20 06:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #6376 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6376 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-06-20 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, I can’t blame them for trying. People don’t always have the means to travel for concerts and I usually assume those commenters are kids who probably wouldn’t know to contact a label. I honestly didn’t know what label my favorite bands were on ‘cause that wasn’t information I cared about and it rarely came up.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-21 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Also probably lables do watch for a demand? One of them monitoring comments
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-06-21 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
*ignoring all the other assumptions OP makes* Unfortunately social media is monitored by execs to determine future decisions so....
Edited 2024-06-21 01:28 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2024-06-21 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
This is about "come to Brazil!", isn't it? lol

(Anonymous) 2024-06-21 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
The labels absolutely know that 1573 people commented “come to Spain!” and another 3159 typed “Germany” on one Facebook post. They know how many responses were from a single account. They know how to mine social media and calculate realistic ticket sales from social media activity on official pages as well as publicly visible posts from other pages and profiles. That doesn’t mean they’ll go to those places on the next tour because there are many other factors in staging a concert tour, but of course demands gets factored in.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-21 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
I mean TBH I'm pretty sure that comments on Instagram posts are an extremely minor datapoint in determining how many ticket sales an artist is going to sell in a given country. I'm pretty sure they have other, better ways to gauge what the demand is.

Honestly this post has argued me around to agreeing with OP. Social media comments are meaningless in comparison to the amount of data labels and managers already have!
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-06-21 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
do you think label execs are using data efficiently? because i don't. i think they use easy available data that requires little analysis and fewer caveats.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-21 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
Even if they're very incompetent, I believe that they must have access to things like number of streams, number of sales, and social media impressions and engagements for a given artist in any given country. That's the most basic stuff that you would collect just by the nature of running a business or running social media for an artist, as a matter of course.

All of those are going to be way more meaningful than # of replies to a specific post. Whether they're making good decisions based off that data, I have no idea.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-06-21 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
what distinction are you making between social media impressions and number of replies? you're saying they're a minor data point, but breadth of data has zero do with weight.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-21 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Social media impressions is basically how many people viewed the post. And then interactions like how many people opened, how many people liked, how many people shared, etc.

I think all of that is going to be generally more indicative of the level of interest in a given country than the number of replies. And looking at like, how many people in that country are streaming our artist's music on all the platforms we have it out there on? How much time are those people listening for? How many YouTube music video plays are we getting?

The number of people who reply is just such a small fraction of the overall number of people interacting with an artist. I'm sure if labels have competent social media managers they're tracking that information. But they would be completely able to determine EG how many people in Brazil like our artist's music even without that.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-06-22 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
so the number of replies and what you're defining as impressions are all considered impressions. that said, no none of those things (likes, opens, even shares) are as important as replies and if the platform has it, reblogs. replies and reblogs are weighted much higher in priority because they require actual effort. there's a hierarchy that is roughly followers < views < likes < shares < replies < reblogs.

eta: i should also mention that tone and content analysis is important as well, but that increases the importance of mentioning specific cities positively.

now, i agree with you that streaming data is important as well and probably more important that replies themselves, but my real point is the more effort something takes, the more it is weighted in data analysis for things that also require increased effort, like buying a ticket and paying to come to a specific city.
Edited 2024-06-22 01:06 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2024-06-21 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Screw them. The so called World Tours are never really World. North America, Europe and Tokyo. The rest of the countries don't exist.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-21 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr jajajajajajajajaja come to brasil