case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-07-01 06:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #6387 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6387 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.



__________________________________________________



02.



__________________________________________________



03.



__________________________________________________



04.



__________________________________________________



05.



__________________________________________________



06.



__________________________________________________



07.
















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 32 secrets from Secret Submission Post #913.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-02 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
You should go back and read the thread because I’m not saying that at all. In general I’m pointing out that OP is wrong. In this specific case I’m pointing out that fascism was a huge problem in the world in the 90s which AIRT said wasn’t true. Which sounds incredibly American because really what they mean is that it’s worse now because it’s happening in their country.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-02 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
What I said was that fascism is a bigger problem today than the 1990s.

And it seems to me that fascism / far right politics is a much bigger problem in France, Italy and Russia today in the year 2024 than it was in the 1990s. In France and Italy, for example, Meloni and Le Pen - who I would describe as far right - are much more popular than any far right politicians were in the 1990s, and indeed Meloni is the prime minister in Italy, the first far right prime minister during the current era of Italian politics, and it's very possible that Le Pen is going to be the next French president. In Russia, Putin - who I would again describe as far right in global terms - has cemented his authority as a de facto dictator and now funds far-right movements around the world.

So based on that, I don't see how it's America-centric to say that fascism is a worse problem today than in the 1990s. In fact, looking at France, Italy and Russia supports my view that far right politics and fascism are more influential and a bigger problem today than they were in the 1990s.

If you think that far right politics have not gotten more popular since the 1990s, I think you're just objectively wrong. They have gotten more popular, more mainstream and more entrenched, not only in America but also throughout Europe (and authoritarian populist right-wing nationalism is also dominant in India in a way it wasn't in the 1990s).

(Anonymous) 2024-07-02 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I think we’re saying similar things from opposite sides. And yes, you’re right in that it’s gotten worse and when I responded, I conflated your comment with some others and attitudes I’ve run into recently. I’m sorry for that.

The 90s weren’t free of fascism. That was actually when it took hold. It HAS spread since then and gotten worse. But my experience is that Americans are unaware of it and think what is happening in America now is a first since the end of WWII. So I was answering as if arguing against that. Mainly because that was my point in the first place: there was alarm around the world about the rise of fascism through the 90s and OP’s secret is wrong.