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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-07-16 04:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #6402 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6402 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Why is it so difficult for you to grasp that these contexts are no longer separate things?

(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
For as long as one exists solely for the purpose of making money, and the other exists solely for the purpose of not making money, they are absolutely separate things.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Not any more. That was yesterday's world. We've moved on.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Just because the internet is a universal state of being doesn't mean that humanity has magically become a single hive-minded blob.

Different people do different things for different reasons. Different spaces within the wider universal world still have their own rules and etiquette.

This is basic.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Those things all change. Not my fault you are now the one behind on the change instead of forcing it.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
So you're saying humanity is a single hive-minded blob? People don't do different things for different reasons? There aren't certain sets of rules for etiquette or behaviour within certain internet spaces, and different rules in other spaces intended for other people?

A porn hub and a Discord server for Sesame Street would, by your logic, have the exact same set of basic rules, be occupied by the exact same people, and welcome exactly the same content.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
the other exists solely for the purpose of not making money

I miss 15 years ago too, but this is demonstrably false now.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2024-07-17 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I once saw an academic argue that fanfiction on for-profit websites is still a product. It’s just that the site owners are the ones who profit from fans’ labor.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Just because you don't want it to be so, doesn't mean it isn't so. These things must stay separate, or fanfiction will be the one to go.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. Fanfic is a grey area, legally. Just because it's tolerated or ignored by IP holders doesn't mean that it's legal. And if it ever does go to court, there's a good possibility that things will not go in fandom's favor.

(Also, Project 2025 wants to outlaw all porn, including anything involving imaginary characters. J.D Vance thinks people should get prison time for it.)

(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
*DA, btw

(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
You can keep calling for the tide to roll itself back all you like, but it is already too late. It is already not seen as separate, as much as you would like it to be.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, it ain't a natural law, dude. It's man made laws. The only question is whether or not you idiots will bring the rest of us down with you.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-17 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry. They probably will. :/

(Anonymous) 2024-07-16 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Look, this isn't necessarily a "fiction based on other people's characters"/"fiction based on original characters" split. If you are writing fiction based on other people's characters that you want to distribute as widely as possible for the purpose of making a profit, then you're doing that. (There have also always been people publishing original fiction under the fanfic ethos of "I just want a few dozen people in the fan community to read this and not market or make money"; most of the stuff that was originally called "Fanfiction" for that reason would be called original fiction these days.)

Communities of people who want to write fiction but don't want to sell or market their writing predate the internet, have existed in every era of the internet, and will outlive the internet. If you aren't aware of those communities, that probably says more about your ability to coexist in a community than anything else.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-17 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
because they still are lmao????