[ SECRET POST #6402 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6402 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

In many ways this is exactly the scenario we've been fighting for on AO3.

Actually, the scenario we've been fighting for on AO3 is fandom's right to be left the fuck alone by the wider internet, which has called us freaks and weirdos and perverts for decades, and which has on multiple occasions weaponized that to erase and destroy our work. The scenario we're fighting for on AO3 is exactly the fucking opposite of this.

[(Anonymous)]

Take it up with The OTW. The shared cultural ownership of stories, is exactly what we want. You want to be a weirdo niche person, the Pit is over there (for now).

[(Anonymous)]

The author's right to their own work is what we want. The author's right to not be told to take a work down because it offends someone is what we want. "Shared cultural ownership" is a nonsense concept.

[(Anonymous)]

Take it up with The OTW. Did you think it meant onlyyou got to put up what you liked but others didn't? That you got to tell people what to not put up, as long as you got to do what you wanted?

[(Anonymous)]

What in the name of all things holy is your point here?

I think it means what it does mean: that authors all get to put up whatever they like ON AO3 ITSELF.

What part of that isn't reflected by the previous comment?

[(Anonymous)]

What exactly do you want people to take up with OTW? You seem to just be saying that even though it doesn't have anything to do with the current discussion.

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

[(Anonymous)]

Excuse you, AO3 was built by and for weirdo niche people. YOU go over to the Pit.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean fandom as a whole is built and sustained by weirdo niche people!

[(Anonymous)]

AO3 was built and is sustained by the people those people kicked out for being too weird and niche. My point stands.

[(Anonymous)]

what

[(Anonymous)]

Shared Cultural ownership applies to characters and concepts. We also know it as Public Domain. It still doesn't mean that you get to post someone else's story in a site where that person doesn't want it posted. Nor that you can make that person delete their story because it offends you. THIS LAST PART IS WHAT AO3 is about. Not about fighting for disappearing copyright law.

[(Anonymous)]

+billions
I guess AO3 has been around for so long that the kids don't realize or understand what it used to be like wrt fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

EXACTLY.

I don't, in theory, have a problem with someone reviewing my fic on Goodreads, but I really would not enjoy book-banning Karens realizing what AO3 offers because they see their kid's goodreads account and getting political with it (likewise authoritarian governments around the world, which has already happened.)

Fanfic is easily findable if you want to read some. It really doesn't need marketing on sites like that.

[(Anonymous)]

THIS THIS THIS THIS.
We've lived through like, four fanfic and fanworks purges on the internet BECAUSE TPTB got wind of fanfic and decided it was offensive.

That's not to mention authors like the late Anne Rice getting VERY pissy about fanfic. So yeah, let's not give them more fuel.